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Legislature could expand casino hours to increase revenue

By Howard B. Owens

The state Legislature is consider new regulation that would allow Batavia Downs to expand its hours and increase the types of games it offers.

Currently the Downs is limited to 116 hours per week. Under the proposal, the casino could stay open for 128 hours per week.

Among the new games being considered are electronic roulette and electronic blackjack. Right now, the Downs is limited to slot machines and video poker.

The moves are being eyed as a way to give the state a boost in revenue when it's struggling to close massive budget gaps over the next four years.

"We will consider them all if it will help us raise some revenue," Paterson said in an interview today with Gannett News Service.

Apparently, the legislature cannot expand the race tracks into full-blown casino's without a constitutional amendment.

I'm guessing that's why the facilities don't offer -- and the Legislature is not considering -- poker?

Poker remains popular throughout the U.S. It seems logical that it would be as successful at Batavia Downs as any place else.

Poker is one of the few games that gives the player a chance to consistently win money, since there is no house advantage (the house takes what's called a rake, a small portion of the opening bets) from each pot, and some pots can be won on the pure skill of an individual player (of course, there's luck involved, too).

Whereas slot machines, video poker and similar electronic games have a house advantage built right in. For example, even if a slot machine offers the nearly unheard of, outrageously high pay out of 98 percent, a player cannot beat it in the long run. Eventually, he is going to lose all of his money (it might take millions and millions of pulls, but the odds are against the player).  Of course, short-term variance means most players either lose big or win big on any given day, which is the thrill that hooks in so many problem gamblers.

Blackjack offers a similar house advantage, which can be defeated by a skilled card counter -- but casinos will ban card counters when caught.

So why does the state sanction games that offer the player no real advantage while banning the one wager game that a skilled player can actually beat?

As a libertarian, I have nothing against these facilities offering these games, or the state legalizing them, or people playing them.  People are free to make their own choices in these matters. I just don't get why poker isn't legal.

Kelly Hansen

My limited understanding of the gaming available at Batavia Downs is that the the machines are lottery terminals - thus the name Video Lottery Terminals. They are nothing more than an electronic lottery ticket - instead of scratching to see if you win, you push buttons. Like lottery tickets, it is already predetermined how many winners, how much will be given away, etc. Any new gaming gimmicks which appear on the scene will continue to be in the form of VLTs.

Nov 15, 2008, 4:03pm Permalink
Brian Hillabush

I'd like to see better video poker machines. The ones in Atlantic City and Vegas have the double-down feature, where as the ones in Batavia don't. That would be a cool thing.

Nov 15, 2008, 7:40pm Permalink
Brian Schollard

The VLT,s or Video Lottery Terminals, is nothing but a term the state uses to call slot machines. The machines at all race ways across the sate are full blown video slot and poker games and have nothing to do with the lottery. They have no purpose other than to raise money for the state. Otherwise known as revenue enhancement. The odds on all these games always favor the "house" (state). IS it fun to go there place some money on the ponies and dump a few $20,s in the slots? Absolutely. They will never have live poker or black jack (with 3.2 or 6 to 5 payouts) because its to hard to control the take for the house. Its all about revenue enhancement for the state. Maybe better to get it at the racecinos that to raise our property taxes.If they ever did have poker they could have a poker room were the state gets a % of all the buy in money.

Nov 16, 2008, 5:28pm Permalink
Howard B. Owens

They can have poker and the state can make money.

The only place poker players don't expect to pay a rake is in a home game.

The house/state makes money on every hand.

The state can look at it this way: Host poker games and take a rake, or let them continue to operate purely as home games and not make any money.

Nov 16, 2008, 7:07pm Permalink

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