It doesn't need to be anything formal. The people who vote on induction make the decision based on their votes. It appears obvious where they stand. I am happy that the triple crown was broken post-steroid, and the ironman stat (consecutive games) was broken by a guy noone suspects of PED usage. Now someone needs to break the home run records and all will be well again.
Time is the great healer, Bonds, Sosa, McGuire, Roger Clemons are not getting in. Time will forget them. The big question for me is: Why not lift the Pete Rose ban? Geez, c'mon did he hurt the game that much?
@Dave - did Rose hurt baseball that much? Probably not. But he broke one of the cardinal rules - bet on his own team. That puts into question any game he coached during that time.
More importantly, though, was that he broke the rule, lied about breaking it (pretty much just a continuation of the offense), was issued punishment, and claimed to accept said punishment. If MLB were to reverse or relieve that punishment, what (dis)incentive would the next person have to not bet on baseball?
Sorry, Mr. Rose - you did the crime, you do the time. Period.
Tim. I understand all of that. But pro sports is rife with gambling, I believe. The Bills got fined over not reporting Mario Williams' lameness, because it screws up the betting lines. Of course, I'm only guessing here, but it stands to reason that a manager might be told for instance to sit a player in order to keep his potential free agent value down, so the team can re-sign him. I'm sure we can think of plenty of other real possibilities. I just feel that barring him from the H O F is highly hypocritical.
Yes, he bet on his teams, but not against them. But hey, the big boys don't care what I think anyways.
I'm a purist about baseball. You cheat, you get dropped down the memory hole. I don't need it proven in a court of law to apply that belief to Barry Bonds, Mark McGuire, Sammy Sosa and Roger Clemens.
As for Rose, while not cheating ... every boy of the 20th Century grew up learning about the Black Sox scandal. He knew the rules about gambling and how seriously MLB took those rules and he chose to ignore those rules. I have no sympathy for him.
Also, the designated hitter and artificial turf are a crimes against humanity.
They should also be stripped
They should also be stripped of any records they may hold as well.
Barry Bonds comes to mind.
It doesn't need to be
It doesn't need to be anything formal. The people who vote on induction make the decision based on their votes. It appears obvious where they stand. I am happy that the triple crown was broken post-steroid, and the ironman stat (consecutive games) was broken by a guy noone suspects of PED usage. Now someone needs to break the home run records and all will be well again.
Time is the great healer,
Time is the great healer, Bonds, Sosa, McGuire, Roger Clemons are not getting in. Time will forget them. The big question for me is: Why not lift the Pete Rose ban? Geez, c'mon did he hurt the game that much?
Believed no, proven yes.
Believed no, proven yes.
@Dave - did Rose hurt
@Dave - did Rose hurt baseball that much? Probably not. But he broke one of the cardinal rules - bet on his own team. That puts into question any game he coached during that time.
More importantly, though, was that he broke the rule, lied about breaking it (pretty much just a continuation of the offense), was issued punishment, and claimed to accept said punishment. If MLB were to reverse or relieve that punishment, what (dis)incentive would the next person have to not bet on baseball?
Sorry, Mr. Rose - you did the crime, you do the time. Period.
Tim. I understand all of
Tim. I understand all of that. But pro sports is rife with gambling, I believe. The Bills got fined over not reporting Mario Williams' lameness, because it screws up the betting lines. Of course, I'm only guessing here, but it stands to reason that a manager might be told for instance to sit a player in order to keep his potential free agent value down, so the team can re-sign him. I'm sure we can think of plenty of other real possibilities. I just feel that barring him from the H O F is highly hypocritical.
Yes, he bet on his teams, but not against them. But hey, the big boys don't care what I think anyways.
I'm a purist about baseball.
I'm a purist about baseball. You cheat, you get dropped down the memory hole. I don't need it proven in a court of law to apply that belief to Barry Bonds, Mark McGuire, Sammy Sosa and Roger Clemens.
As for Rose, while not cheating ... every boy of the 20th Century grew up learning about the Black Sox scandal. He knew the rules about gambling and how seriously MLB took those rules and he chose to ignore those rules. I have no sympathy for him.
Also, the designated hitter and artificial turf are a crimes against humanity.