I voted yes because the way prices are elevating its more like making 5 dollars an hour. Minimum wage increase will even out the playing field a little bit unless the greedy ppl on top decide its dipping into their pockets to pay minimum wage workers and extra 40 a week.
I voted no because all it will do is increase the price of goods and services.
Employers will not absorb the increase. They will cover the increase by increasing the price of their goods and services. So in the end WE the consumers pay for the wage increase. Sorry to say but that is the REAL LIFE.
I voted no because I'm against a minimum wage to begin with. Nothing incentivises skill level like a pay scale. Some jobs simply do not warrant a minimum wage yet an employer is forced to pay it anyway. If someone doesn't want to earn what a job pays, they need to learn a trade or a skill that is worthy of what they want to be paid.
I akin a minimum wage to a subsidized project that couldn't support itself without the subsidy. We ALL end up paying for people on minimum wage because as Ted said, the costs will be passed along to every consumer. Minimum wage needs to end in my opinion.
Mary, if you wanted to hire someone to mop your floors and clean your kitchen once per week, would you like it if the government told you that you had to pay them $200 even though you only think 4 hours worth of mopping and cleaning is worth $40? No? Well, that's exactly what employers are being forced to do.
so what doesn't warrent minimun wage -- cheap shot-- most jobs that are minimum are alot harder than desk jobs and take skill -- yes mopping floors takes a skill -- answering a phone though not much effot takes a little skill -- living takes more than minimum wage --- groceries are sky high now --
Sorry, Tammy, manual labor doesn't always mean it warrants minimum wage pay. An employer should be able to pay whatever they want to. If they don't offer enough of a wage, nobody will do the job anyway.
Cough..mopping floors does not take skill. Anyone can be taught how to mop a floor in a few minutes. I hold a 1st class stationary engineering license and an R4 refrigeration license and have had more certifications over the past 30 years than I can count for fork trucks, high lifts, pesticide applicator, federal certification for refrigerant handling..etc..etc, and I started out at the bottom dumping trash and sweeping/mopping floors. None of those jobs are very difficult to do.
You can't possibly compare a minimum wage job with a job that requires years of training and experience to become proficient at it (which you did). If living costs more than a minimum wage job pays, then I suggest working two of them, not just one. There are no guarantees in life and the cost of forcing equality is "TOO DAMN HIGH!" <-- I couldn't resist that one!
Just for a comparative example, my skills involve the operation of 1700 ton chillers, all related primary, secondary and tertiary loops, steam, hot water heating loops, plumbing, electrical, pneumatics, air handlers, water treatment, and I have to handle all 2000 customers in this building when they're too hot or too cold. I have to know what to do in every situation and I'm good at my job. I'm the first one that gets called in this building most of the time. Without divulging what I make per hour. I don't think a floor mopper or broom pusher needs to earn a 3rd or even 1/4 of what I make per hour.
I'd be curious to know how many of the 530+ people that voted yes are business owners w/ employees. My guess is zero. You folks have no idea how much of a disaster this is. When this is implemented I WILL be forced to lay off some of my staff and I WILL be forced to raise our rates considerably. I know that WILL mean fewer people raft with us but the State doesn't care about any of that apparently, let's just give the people that don't know any better a warm fuzzy feeling.
By the way, I have always paid my employees more than the minimum wage in the first place along with some pretty nice perks. Thank you NYS for continuing to make life ever more difficult for small business owners.
Maybe the Batavian can pressure those who disagree with raising the minimum wage into surrendering to the Nanny State of NY. More milk from the Government teat? Why not. Punish the productive, reward the rest. That's the Big Government way. An exodus from this grievous state by it's business owners, wage earners, and benefactors cannot be too far away. I think I'll pack an overnight bag to start.
No matter which side your on, remember the cost to the employer is higher than just the wage increase. The employer pays a tax on the payroll (for Social Security). When the wage goes up, so does the payroll tax they pay. While the increase may not seem too much, it still hurts. Maybe a few employers can absorb the cost but others will either cut employee hours, lay off a worker, not hire a worker or raise the price they charge for their goods or service.
Everything is allready skyrocketing. Rent has not increased because minimum wage increased. Rent increased because taxes increased. Ten dollars should be the minimum wage that way people will spend a little more. If people cannot buy services or goods because of prices what good are those services or goods. American manufacturing for example, many prices are too high for an minimum wage earner to purchase. So the price stays high because stock cannot be moved. Would you rather hold on to the stock at an elevated price or sell it at a comfortable price to move it?
Doug, you are fortunate that your skill sets are a needed trade, some of us however, have been displaced from jobs we were also tradesmen in. With the exodus of manufacturing jobs from this state, and country, it leaves very little choice.
I would rather see an increase in min. wage than more people giving up and looking for food stamps, medicaid, and any other give-away our govt. has to offer.
So at the end of the day, someone will pay more, and as usual, it will be the taxpayers.
Wage increases will never be control until, we control what businesses can charge. Take for example Oil Companies; they used an agency that estimates the price of gas based on refinery costs, transportation costs, supply/demand and whatever else they can dream of. Examples: Oil company officials have stated that it cost extra to clean fuel yet, back in the 60s & 70s they added lead into gasoline. Diesel the dirtiest form of fuel cost more than cleaned and/or additive fuels. Price negotiators are blaming the unsettling of the Middle East on price raises because; it is uncertain if fuel shipments will get though affected areas. BS, they are using this an excuse to gain more profit as we have seen once again "RECORD PROFITS" for oil companies! I have CPAP machine that cost $950 USD yet, when I went to Iraq, I ordered a fitted mouth piece that cost $1800 USD. That is almost double the cost!
I have to ask, what should a waiter/waitress make per hour? They have to deal with the public and their attitudes, a fast pace work environment, etc... What should a janitor make per hour? They have to put up with others crap, messes, etc... What makes one profession more important than others? Like Doug stated above, one can be trained to mop but, one can be trained to operate 1700 ton chillers, all related primary, secondary and tertiary loops, steam, hot water heating loops, plumbing, electrical, pneumatics, air handlers, water treatment, and to handle all 2000 customers in a building when they're too hot or too cold. Yes, some jobs may be more technical than others but, does this mean some are less needed?
Costs of products are currently going up now because; the US Government and the greed of big business. Oil companies continue to use BS excuses and we continue to take it in our arse. We have professions such as medical and lawyers that charge high fees because, their education cost them dearly and they have to pay back school loans or some just love their luxuries too much! I am curious why some of us believe that others need to get two or three jobs to support themself? Have we not noticed the unemployment rate. Have we not notice big business moving out of our country to gain lower wage workers in other parts of the world? We need to unit as a people and make our elected officials answers to us and not to their own personal agendas! So, whine about the Minimum wage increase all you want, it is all of us that made it necessary to happen!
I voted yes because the way
I voted yes because the way prices are elevating its more like making 5 dollars an hour. Minimum wage increase will even out the playing field a little bit unless the greedy ppl on top decide its dipping into their pockets to pay minimum wage workers and extra 40 a week.
I voted no because all it
I voted no because all it will do is increase the price of goods and services.
Employers will not absorb the increase. They will cover the increase by increasing the price of their goods and services. So in the end WE the consumers pay for the wage increase. Sorry to say but that is the REAL LIFE.
I voted no because I'm
I voted no because I'm against a minimum wage to begin with. Nothing incentivises skill level like a pay scale. Some jobs simply do not warrant a minimum wage yet an employer is forced to pay it anyway. If someone doesn't want to earn what a job pays, they need to learn a trade or a skill that is worthy of what they want to be paid.
I akin a minimum wage to a subsidized project that couldn't support itself without the subsidy. We ALL end up paying for people on minimum wage because as Ted said, the costs will be passed along to every consumer. Minimum wage needs to end in my opinion.
Mary, if you wanted to hire
Mary, if you wanted to hire someone to mop your floors and clean your kitchen once per week, would you like it if the government told you that you had to pay them $200 even though you only think 4 hours worth of mopping and cleaning is worth $40? No? Well, that's exactly what employers are being forced to do.
so what doesn't warrent
so what doesn't warrent minimun wage -- cheap shot-- most jobs that are minimum are alot harder than desk jobs and take skill -- yes mopping floors takes a skill -- answering a phone though not much effot takes a little skill -- living takes more than minimum wage --- groceries are sky high now --
Sorry, Tammy, manual labor
Sorry, Tammy, manual labor doesn't always mean it warrants minimum wage pay. An employer should be able to pay whatever they want to. If they don't offer enough of a wage, nobody will do the job anyway.
Cough..mopping floors does not take skill. Anyone can be taught how to mop a floor in a few minutes. I hold a 1st class stationary engineering license and an R4 refrigeration license and have had more certifications over the past 30 years than I can count for fork trucks, high lifts, pesticide applicator, federal certification for refrigerant handling..etc..etc, and I started out at the bottom dumping trash and sweeping/mopping floors. None of those jobs are very difficult to do.
You can't possibly compare a minimum wage job with a job that requires years of training and experience to become proficient at it (which you did). If living costs more than a minimum wage job pays, then I suggest working two of them, not just one. There are no guarantees in life and the cost of forcing equality is "TOO DAMN HIGH!" <-- I couldn't resist that one!
Just for a comparative example, my skills involve the operation of 1700 ton chillers, all related primary, secondary and tertiary loops, steam, hot water heating loops, plumbing, electrical, pneumatics, air handlers, water treatment, and I have to handle all 2000 customers in this building when they're too hot or too cold. I have to know what to do in every situation and I'm good at my job. I'm the first one that gets called in this building most of the time. Without divulging what I make per hour. I don't think a floor mopper or broom pusher needs to earn a 3rd or even 1/4 of what I make per hour.
Tammy - guess why groceries
Tammy - guess why groceries are sky high now. Higher minimum wages. The circle goes around and around and around.
I'd be curious to know how
I'd be curious to know how many of the 530+ people that voted yes are business owners w/ employees. My guess is zero. You folks have no idea how much of a disaster this is. When this is implemented I WILL be forced to lay off some of my staff and I WILL be forced to raise our rates considerably. I know that WILL mean fewer people raft with us but the State doesn't care about any of that apparently, let's just give the people that don't know any better a warm fuzzy feeling.
By the way, I have always paid my employees more than the minimum wage in the first place along with some pretty nice perks. Thank you NYS for continuing to make life ever more difficult for small business owners.
Kevin, how many people do you
Kevin, how many people do you employ that would fall under this minimum wage increase?
If you've always paid your employees more than the minimum wage, then how would this affect you?
Maybe the Batavian can
Maybe the Batavian can pressure those who disagree with raising the minimum wage into surrendering to the Nanny State of NY. More milk from the Government teat? Why not. Punish the productive, reward the rest. That's the Big Government way. An exodus from this grievous state by it's business owners, wage earners, and benefactors cannot be too far away. I think I'll pack an overnight bag to start.
No matter which side your on,
No matter which side your on, remember the cost to the employer is higher than just the wage increase. The employer pays a tax on the payroll (for Social Security). When the wage goes up, so does the payroll tax they pay. While the increase may not seem too much, it still hurts. Maybe a few employers can absorb the cost but others will either cut employee hours, lay off a worker, not hire a worker or raise the price they charge for their goods or service.
Everything is allready
Everything is allready skyrocketing. Rent has not increased because minimum wage increased. Rent increased because taxes increased. Ten dollars should be the minimum wage that way people will spend a little more. If people cannot buy services or goods because of prices what good are those services or goods. American manufacturing for example, many prices are too high for an minimum wage earner to purchase. So the price stays high because stock cannot be moved. Would you rather hold on to the stock at an elevated price or sell it at a comfortable price to move it?
Doug, you are fortunate that
Doug, you are fortunate that your skill sets are a needed trade, some of us however, have been displaced from jobs we were also tradesmen in. With the exodus of manufacturing jobs from this state, and country, it leaves very little choice.
I would rather see an increase in min. wage than more people giving up and looking for food stamps, medicaid, and any other give-away our govt. has to offer.
So at the end of the day, someone will pay more, and as usual, it will be the taxpayers.
A $10 minimum wage? Please
A $10 minimum wage?
Please read this first
http://freebeacon.com/no-5-footlongs-due-to-10-minimum-wage/
Wage increases will never be
Wage increases will never be control until, we control what businesses can charge. Take for example Oil Companies; they used an agency that estimates the price of gas based on refinery costs, transportation costs, supply/demand and whatever else they can dream of. Examples: Oil company officials have stated that it cost extra to clean fuel yet, back in the 60s & 70s they added lead into gasoline. Diesel the dirtiest form of fuel cost more than cleaned and/or additive fuels. Price negotiators are blaming the unsettling of the Middle East on price raises because; it is uncertain if fuel shipments will get though affected areas. BS, they are using this an excuse to gain more profit as we have seen once again "RECORD PROFITS" for oil companies! I have CPAP machine that cost $950 USD yet, when I went to Iraq, I ordered a fitted mouth piece that cost $1800 USD. That is almost double the cost!
I have to ask, what should a waiter/waitress make per hour? They have to deal with the public and their attitudes, a fast pace work environment, etc... What should a janitor make per hour? They have to put up with others crap, messes, etc... What makes one profession more important than others? Like Doug stated above, one can be trained to mop but, one can be trained to operate 1700 ton chillers, all related primary, secondary and tertiary loops, steam, hot water heating loops, plumbing, electrical, pneumatics, air handlers, water treatment, and to handle all 2000 customers in a building when they're too hot or too cold. Yes, some jobs may be more technical than others but, does this mean some are less needed?
Costs of products are currently going up now because; the US Government and the greed of big business. Oil companies continue to use BS excuses and we continue to take it in our arse. We have professions such as medical and lawyers that charge high fees because, their education cost them dearly and they have to pay back school loans or some just love their luxuries too much! I am curious why some of us believe that others need to get two or three jobs to support themself? Have we not noticed the unemployment rate. Have we not notice big business moving out of our country to gain lower wage workers in other parts of the world? We need to unit as a people and make our elected officials answers to us and not to their own personal agendas! So, whine about the Minimum wage increase all you want, it is all of us that made it necessary to happen!