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Youths accused of Wiard Plow arson will move quickly through family court

By Howard B. Owens

For the three youths being hauled into family court on arson charges stemming from the Wiard Plow fire on May 8, justice -- such as it is -- will be swift.

Family court operates much faster than adult court, according to Assistant County Attorney Durin Rogers.

Rogers spoke on the condition that his comments not be construed as speaking specifically about the arson case, but in general about how family court operates and what a youth facing felony charges might expect. He is prohibited by law from talking about specific cases in family court, where all matters are kept confidential.

The outcome of a case such as this could range from conditional discharge, to two years probation, to placement in a limited-security facility for up to 18 months. 

That's as close as a youth charged with a felony might come to prison, unless the young offender committed one of a series of offenses eligible for juvenile offender status.

As a JO, a youth could be tried as an adult.

The charges in this case do not fall within that statutory definition, Rogers said.

Some cases, he said, are just seen as acts of juvenile delinquency.

Asked if the public will ever know the outcome of the case, Rogers said he couldn't comment.

Det. Todd Crossett told WBTA this morning that the arrest of the three 14-year-olds is the last the public will ever hear of the case.

As for the parents of youths in such cases, they face no charges tied directly to their children's actions, and are not technically financially liable for the damage caused by a minor to private property, Rogers said. 

In family court, there are hearings and respondents (called defendants in adult court) who receive legal respresentation. A convicted youth can be ordered to pay restitution, but not the parents, Rogers said.

That doesn't mean the property owner victimized by an act of vandalism can't sue the parents. But in order to sue them, the property owner would have to know who the youth was who committed the crime. Asked if there was a procedure for a property owner to find out the name of defendant in family court, Rogers said he couldn't comment on that.

Crossett told WBTA this morning that detectives don't believe the three youths meant to burn down a building.

"I don't think there was the thought when they went in there to say, 'Let's burn the whole thing down,'" Crossett said.

With the old wood and chemicals in the building, Crossett said the youths' fascination with fire became something too big too fast.

"I think the fire just got really out of hand really fast," Crossett said.

The foundations of the old factory buildings have been cleared of debris, as the pictures with this post show. Owner Tom Mancuso was not available to comment today on the future of the space.

As the chapter on the May 8 fire comes to a close, Mancuso's company is also pushing ahead with the Masse Gateway Project.

Frank Bartholomew

These kids burned down a building,causing almost $300,00
in damage.The most that will happen is 2 years probation, or up to 18 months in a limited secure facility. My kid got 1 year probation, and 24 weeks of S.T.A.R. for aledged misbehavior in school over the past 4 years.

Sep 11, 2010, 11:14pm Permalink
Anthony Timberlake

I can't believe anyone would think that these kids didn't know what was going to happen. I'm still believing myself that they were there earlier in the day (when the first fire happened). They didn't get the outcome they wanted so they returned. This happened. Disgusting. I hope these kids get the punishment they deserve, and very well the parents should be responsible for their children.

Aug 26, 2010, 4:38pm Permalink
Thomas Mooney

Frank, You speak as if your kid was done wrong. You should be thankfull that it might help your kid straighten out his life . The more you keep protecting him and trying to shift blame , the more trouble he will get into. I personally almost hit your kid with my car a dozen times . Your son would jump out in front of cars on a daily basis on his way home from school . Many times almost causing a major accident . I would bet that there are a least 100 people that have come in contact with your son doing the same thing . Your son has no respect for adults and now that he has been caught , you want to shift blame . Wake up and pay more attention to him , that is what he is looking for .

Aug 27, 2010, 11:33am Permalink
Jamie Lindsley

You seem to be the only one bitching. I click in hopes of finding INTELLINGENT discussion. It's lacking when you bring your own personal situation into it.

Aug 31, 2010, 8:42pm Permalink
Lorie Cook

Hey Frank, how about YOU prove what YOU write. Why on earth would Mr. Mooney make that up? Oh, that's right because everyone on the planet is out to victimize you and your son. Here's a thought...homeschool him.

Sep 12, 2010, 11:29am Permalink

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