January 24, 2011 - 8:50am
Today's Poll: Do you think taxpayers are getting their money's worth out of GCEDC?
January 24, 2011 - 10:15am#1
I may be mistaken, but it appears Howard is running out of poll ideas, since this current subject is being beaten to death. Why don't we help and suggest new polls, because I fear tomorrows will be is it Cold, yes or no. How about has Howard, a) Ran out of poll ideas? b) is just too cold to think c) the writer of this post has cabin fever
January 24, 2011 - 10:24am#2
Considering that every where I went this weekend, this is to topic people wanted to talk about -- I'd say it's hardly "beaten to death."
January 24, 2011 - 10:28am#3
Sweeping it under the carpet doesn't make it go away. Perhaps, the more important question is why Jim wants to direct attention away from a topic that has everyone talking.
January 24, 2011 - 10:31am#4
Bring back Is Obama a citizen? Just Kidding.
January 24, 2011 - 10:44am#5
ooh Bea a conspiracy, why do I want it to go away? Really? Are you kidding? I care enough about it that I have placed the meeting on my schedule, the good story that is was just seems over played to me.
January 24, 2011 - 11:53am#6
Jim, may I ask which meeting you are talking about? I would like to find out more about this whole ordeal. Thanks!
January 24, 2011 - 11:55am#7
I don't think that anything that involves the possible missuse of public funds can be "over played' until all the facts are brought before the public and an acceptable solution is obtained. Too many times you see something like this swept under the rug.
January 24, 2011 - 1:27pm#8
I got a better conspiracy theory. Suzanne Corona was paid to shoplift, thinking it would overshadow media exposure of the GCEDC Report. Almost worked too.
January 24, 2011 - 1:28pm#9
I'm glad to see Howard poll the public on this issue..Creates great debate...From the way the poll results have been seems like the public feels that the GCEDC is being running poorly..And that until they are looked at more closely by the County Manager no more taxes payers money should be given to them...Cut all funding and lets see what kind of salary's they draw..Will there still be county club memberships..What are there benefits packages like..
January 24, 2011 - 2:07pm#10
The waste and inappropriate use of funds under the authority of local IDAs is pervasive. This is NOT simply a Genesee County issue; it is a statewide phenomena. And it's aggravating that business interests under the guise of Chambers of Commerce and Unshackle Upstate have either ignored or defended the IDAs while taking aim at working-class programs for similar mismanagement. Here is a link to a report by a Monroe County group: http://www.metrojustice.org/pdfs/COMIDA%20isnt%20spanish%20for%20free%20...
January 24, 2011 - 2:40pm#11
CM, While the report is interesting, can you give one that is not by a left wing (and not a right wing) group?
January 24, 2011 - 2:43pm#12
John, considering the documentation, the messenger should not be the prime consideration. In any regard, skip ahead to the recommendations. I doubt you will find any to be unreasonable or uncalled for.
January 24, 2011 - 3:14pm#13
Mark, according to the document, the country club membership was dropped a year ago or so.
January 24, 2011 - 6:17pm#14
I agree with Senator Ranzenhofer: "I don't believe that bonuses are appropriate," says Ranzenhofer, "whether it be the Power Authority or the Transportation Authority or an Industrial Development Agency. You agree to work for a certain amount of money and that's the way they ought to be compensated. This is not the private sector." http://www.wbtai.com/LocalNews/tabid/115/articleType/ArticleView/article... "I do not favor a one-time bonus payment. It think it leaves open the opportunity for controversy and criticism as obviously we are talking about it right now." http://www.wbtai.com/LocalNews/tabid/115/articleType/ArticleView/article...
January 24, 2011 - 6:26pm#15
Howard and Bea, perhaps you should consider wider circles of influence. I was at five separate functions in the area this weekend and talked with more than 200 people. The GCDEC never came up, not even in passing.
January 24, 2011 - 6:55pm#16
Kevin, I guess it depends on the type of function attended. Shopping for playoff party, it was discussed among friends. NFL playoff party, no one mentioned it. Public awareness breakfast, it was the topic of conversation. Dinner with friends, it was brought up - not by me. I didn't expect the people at the playoff party to talk about it. So, I was only with about 50 people over the weekend, and can't compare with your 200.
January 24, 2011 - 7:18pm#17
Kevin, I could go to the most social function in town and people will want to talk with me about the story that's top of their mind.
January 25, 2011 - 12:04am#18
Yes, some on the GCDEC have certainly gotten their money's worth....oh, I'm sorry, I misunderstood the question.
January 25, 2011 - 12:41am#19
Kevin K....I guess I would like to know what functions you attended too. I was at one place this weekend with probably 50 people and it was the topic of choice. There were some people there that propably couldn't tell you who the vice president of the United States was...but they were all talking about this...