Doug, not sure if you mean the parlay sheets(one distributed by bookies(a list of tteams vs each other with a point spread(some parlay sheets are "straight up"), or the football squares(where they draw #s before the superbowl) or Last Man Standing type of pools which could run through the NFL regular season.....in they eyes of the IRS & NYS Liquor Authority, they are ALL considered illegal whether a vig is paid(made) or not. Typically, law enforcement agencies will look the other way unless someone calls and reports an establishment or individual is promoting gambling. And Mark, you are right, booking games and football, basketball,car racing, baseball pools etc etc are 2 way different things with one exception, they are both illegal whether or not a vig is being made.
Mark, I never said you did. I agreed with what you said but I just added that they both were considered illegal by NYS. It wasn't a put down to you nor anyone else.(Maybe I should have put a period after the etc etc..) and then typed in that it doesn't matter if a vig is being taken or not. Is that better? I'm not into putting people down or trying to be righteous - just trying to be informative. Again, I agreed with you and was just re-iterating what I wrote earlier in my post. That's all, nothing more.
Pay attention particularly to #2, being a player. It's not illegal in NYS to be a player in a game of chance. You are a player if you're competing on equal terms with other players an not profiting from the game.
To "advance gambling," you must act as other than a player.
Mike is right, and I did not know, that ABC law prohibits games of chance, except state-sanctioned, at premises licensed to sell alcohol.
The IRS has no prohibition against gambling, just has it has no prohibition against dealing cocaine. Just declare your winnings or your profits, pay your taxes, and the IRS will leave you unmolested. The IRS is interested in one thing: You paying your taxes. How you derive your income is no nevermind to the IRS.
Anyone that has ever worked
Anyone that has ever worked in a factory knows how large those sports bets can get and they run all football season long. Are those illegal?
Only if there's a vig.
Only if there's a vig.
Making book and running a
Making book and running a football or basketball pool are two way different things
Doug, not sure if you mean
Doug, not sure if you mean the parlay sheets(one distributed by bookies(a list of tteams vs each other with a point spread(some parlay sheets are "straight up"), or the football squares(where they draw #s before the superbowl) or Last Man Standing type of pools which could run through the NFL regular season.....in they eyes of the IRS & NYS Liquor Authority, they are ALL considered illegal whether a vig is paid(made) or not. Typically, law enforcement agencies will look the other way unless someone calls and reports an establishment or individual is promoting gambling. And Mark, you are right, booking games and football, basketball,car racing, baseball pools etc etc are 2 way different things with one exception, they are both illegal whether or not a vig is being made.
I never implied either one
I never implied either one was legal in the truest sense, simply that there is a huge difference
Mark, I never said you did.
Mark, I never said you did. I agreed with what you said but I just added that they both were considered illegal by NYS. It wasn't a put down to you nor anyone else.(Maybe I should have put a period after the etc etc..) and then typed in that it doesn't matter if a vig is being taken or not. Is that better? I'm not into putting people down or trying to be righteous - just trying to be informative. Again, I agreed with you and was just re-iterating what I wrote earlier in my post. That's all, nothing more.
The only reason that its
The only reason that its illegal is because the state doesn't get a%. Fix that and let people do what they want to do.
Here's NYS gambling
Here's NYS gambling statute
http://ypdcrime.com/penal.law/article225.htm
Pay attention particularly to #2, being a player. It's not illegal in NYS to be a player in a game of chance. You are a player if you're competing on equal terms with other players an not profiting from the game.
To "advance gambling," you must act as other than a player.
Mike is right, and I did not know, that ABC law prohibits games of chance, except state-sanctioned, at premises licensed to sell alcohol.
The IRS has no prohibition against gambling, just has it has no prohibition against dealing cocaine. Just declare your winnings or your profits, pay your taxes, and the IRS will leave you unmolested. The IRS is interested in one thing: You paying your taxes. How you derive your income is no nevermind to the IRS.
NO
NO