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Motorcyclists on memorial ride confronted by motorist with shotgun

Posted by Howard Owens on August 17, 2009 - 11:15am
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A motorcycle group out on a fundraising ride through Alabama on Sunday was confronted by a shotgun-wielding motorist when he apparently didn't like an intersection being closed by members of the group while the caravan passed.

William E. Buncy, 64, of Depew, was arrested by State Police and charged with a misdemeanor count of menacing.

The shotgun, which was reportedly unloaded at the time, along with three other unloaded firearms, were taken from Buncy at the time of his arrest. Buncy was returning from an event at a local gun club at the time of the incident.

The motorcycle group had 150 riders, and a few members of the group blocked the intersection at Lewiston Road and Route 63 to make it easier and safer for the entire group to pass through the intersection.

Titled the Jonathon Cote Memorial Motorcycle Run, it featured 150 riders and began in Amherst and was headed to Wilson Boat House in Wilson.

Buncy will be arraigned on the charge on Aug. 25 in the Town of Alabama Court.

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Posted by Peter O'Brien on August 17, 2009 - 11:24am
The guy had a right to be pissed. There is no reason that motorcyclist shouldn't obey the laws of the road just because there are a group of them.
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Posted by George Richardson on August 17, 2009 - 11:45am
He's lucky 20 bikers from the group didn't kick his ass, it's a good thing he was older and the motorcycle riders were wiser. He must have seen "Easy Rider" years ago and had a fantasy ending of his own in mind for all these years.
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Posted by Anthony Timberlake on August 17, 2009 - 11:52am
The guy had the right to hold a gun up to someone? That's a bit ridiculous. And when you have a large group of people on bikes that are subject to being hit by cars, I don't blame them for trying to keep things safe.
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Posted by John Roach on August 17, 2009 - 12:10pm
Peter, You have set a new low for stupid, even for you. You do not have the right to point a gun like that. If he was upset, he could have called the police. With that many bikes, you can bet there was one in the area.

Being upset or "pissed", is one thing. Lack of control is another. The only good thing that can be said is that he knew not to have a loaded gun in the car.
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Posted by Chelsea Dobson on August 17, 2009 - 12:15pm
"The guy had a right to be pissed."

"right to be pissed" is not "right to hold a gun up to someone". Could he have handled it differently? absolutely. Does he have a right to be upset? absolutely.
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Posted by Peter O'Brien on August 17, 2009 - 12:22pm
Did I say he had a right to hold the gun up? I said he had a right to be angry.

Its just as safe to use the traffic laws as they were designed.
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Posted by C. M. Barons on August 17, 2009 - 1:16pm
If in the course of planning the Jonathon Cote Memorial Run it was deemed necessary to modify traffic flow at highway intersections, the DOT and/or local law enforcement should have been part of the planning. Although I'm sure the motorcyclists handled the task effectively, they are not authorized as traffic control.
Despite the albeit vigilante take over of an intersection, Buncy had no right to brandish a firearm in evidence of how "pissed" he might have been.

This yippee aye ay mentality about guns has to end. It may be our right to bear arms, but settling every dispute with firearms is stupid and dangerous. A kid from Monroe County was just charged (disservedly) with a weapons charge for threatening suicide. A medical health professional was just convicted of executing two people in Ontario County after losing his job. A young man was shot in the leg last night in Rochester. A Greece man shot a teenager to death, because he thought he heard someone going through parked cars. Yee ha! Frontier justice!
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Posted by Bob Price on August 17, 2009 - 2:15pm
The Troopers or Sheriff should have been notified to assist with traffic at intersections....when I saw this ride mentioned on news last night-I thought I did see a police car in front.Don't they do that in front of major processions like this one anyway???It's idiots like the trigger happy idiot here that give ALL gun owners a bad name.I would ban him for owning guns.....BTW,when the had the funeral procession for Jonathan Cote in Clarence last year-I was first one at light on Rt.5 at Harris Hill -it was at least a 10 minute delay-I wasn't pissed-I was just sad for the family,as they had to wait all those months before they found out they killed him.Gee,if he's going to get pissed at that,I wouldn't want to meet him anywhere in Batavia-he obviously hasn't tried to drive on Main St. between 3-5pm.......
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Posted by Kelly Hansen on August 17, 2009 - 2:37pm
It is standard operating procedure for most motorcycle clubs to have a 'road guard' remain in the intersection until all members are safely through it. It is illegal for a private citizen to do so, but typical nonetheless. So is jaywalking and talking on the cellphone while driving. All can be annoying to other drivers, but not worth pulling out a weapon.

There is no good reason for a person who is disgruntled with another driver to pull out a weapon and point it at any individual. Sounds like the 'gentleman' is a hot-head if he could not wait for 150 riders, most likely riding 2 abreast, to pass the intersection. He is lucky no one reciprocated with a loaded weapon. I hope his anger management class gets him back on the right track.
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Posted by Peter O'Brien on August 17, 2009 - 2:39pm
A funeral procession is not a memorial bike ride.
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Posted by Peter O'Brien on August 17, 2009 - 2:41pm
A gun is no more a weapon than a hammer is when it is unloaded.
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Posted by Bob Price on August 17, 2009 - 2:45pm
So-would this guy get pissed at a funeral procession too???Would he dare pull a gun out if a police car was at intersection? Geez,I hope he doesn't get behind a piece of farm equipment someday and shoot the farmer....I get pissed everyday I drive down Main St,with every light turning red as I get to them.....and checking my mirrors to make sure person behind me isn't looking down texting,so I don't get rear ended.
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Posted by John Roach on August 17, 2009 - 4:24pm
Peter,
Nice try. It's clear to most of us you thought it was ok to point the gun becuase he was "pissed", when you first wrote it.

To say that a gun is the same as a hammer is again a special kind of stupid. If he stood there and wavied a hammer at them, who would have cared? But a gun; who could have known the gun was not loaded? He deserves to be arrested.

George was right, "poor little Peter".
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Posted by Mardell Lamb on August 17, 2009 - 4:42pm
That guy needs a shirt that says "My anger management class pisses me off!"
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Posted by Peter O'Brien on August 18, 2009 - 7:16am
Wow,
Its nice to see you putting words in my mouth again. I appreciate that.

Depending on the type of shotgun and the position of the racking mechanism it is easy to tell if it is loaded or not.

With no shells, it becomes wood and metal, same as a hammer.
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Posted by John Roach on August 18, 2009 - 7:30am
You’re kidding? A bunch of people on motorcycles, even at the slow speed of 20 MPH (which I doubt they were doing) would be able to see an open breach?

Good try again and still comparing a gun to a hammer is rather sad.

Most people do not own a gun of any kind. So most would not know what an empty gun would even look like.

In addition, when a guy is standing at an intersection with a shotgun, not even you would go up and first ask, “Can I see the breach before I know if I am in trouble”.

While he is innocent until proven guilty, a reasonable person can conclude he intended to threaten, upset, or scare, them. And he seems to have succeeded because somebody must have called a cop. The guy was "pissed", lost contro and will have to deal with the courts now.
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Posted by Peter O'Brien on August 18, 2009 - 7:42am
There were stopped guys on bikes in the intersection who could have seen it.
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Posted by John Roach on August 18, 2009 - 7:58am
Oh yea! Some guy gets out of his car with a gun, and they are going to check to see if it's loaded. Even you would not do that. Peter, get real.
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Posted by Peter O'Brien on August 18, 2009 - 8:25am
I would be studying my situation. It is what I was taught to do. Thats me. I understand the bikers reaction and calling the cops, it was a smart move. I don't defend the guys actions. I can't even be sure of the style of shotgun.

The guy had a right to pissed. The bikers broke the law as well and are getting off. That needs to be addressed.
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Posted by C. M. Barons on August 18, 2009 - 10:56am
Peter- have you ever heard the expression, "beating a dead horse?" In this case, the horse was made into a leather jacket.
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Posted by John Woodworth JR on August 21, 2009 - 8:53pm
Most law enforcement agencies will not assist. The Hunter Hope run which has thousands of bikers participate will have local authorities help out. A 150 bikers though it seems a lot is small for a memorial event. Plus if it is a memorial run there are probably several officers that are part of it (not in uniform).

Mr Buncy is lucky he wasn't shot himself. If it was an biker gang such as Kingsmen, Hells Angels, etc... the bastard would probably be dead. As far as Peter stating people can tell if a shotgun is unloaded, he is a dumas. If Buncy had slammed the bolt foorward no one would been able to tell.
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