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January 2, 2013 - 7:15am

Today's Poll: Do you support the death penalty?

posted by Howard B. Owens in polls.
Doug Yeomans
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I do support it, but there are too many problems with it. In cases where there is absolutely no doubt about guilt, "FINISH THEM!" There are far too many cases that have been wrongful convictions and put to death. What do we say to those people and their families? OOPS?!


I knew a woman that was murdered in the city of Rochester in November of 1995. She was raped, beaten and then she was bound and strangled with her own shoe laces. Both perpetrators left DNA evidence behind and were convicted on that evidence. They were both suspects right from the start, but the DNA sealed their fate 12 years later. Both of them should've gotten the death sentence IMO. If I could, I'd start the lethal injection process, but I'd be in a long line of family members willing to do that. Howard Wright and Christopher Gifford are their names. What do we do with garbage? We throw it away to decay in a landfill. We don't put it on ice in the hope that someday it will be fresh again.

tom hunt
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William Spengler of Webster killed his grandmother with a hammer in 1980 and was convicted of manslaughter. Let go after 17 years in the pen, he was free to kill again. He did just that, killing his sister and two fireman who responded to the house fire he set. If this was the state of Texas he would have never gotten the chance.

Doug Yeomans
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TP, I just don't understand how beating ANYONE to death with a hammer can be met with anything less than a 1st degree murder conviction. Sometimes our court system seems to get things completely wrong.

Rich Richmond
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I voted yes and some would argue that what I have to propose is simplistic and that the subject of the Death Sentence is far more complicated.

(1.) In my mind there is self-defense; a justifiable case in taking a human life. I’ll take it a step further; when cleared by the Grand Jury, it shall be illegal to sue the said person in Civil Court.

(2.) There are accidental deaths, automobile accidents, hunting accidents, etc.....with varying degrees of culpability to be determined by a Grand Jury and or Civil Courts.

(3.) However, any malicious premeditated acts where death occurs in a commission of a crime; especially by violent repeat felons should include the death sentence; no second chances to get out of prison and kill again; we already know their predisposition to do so. I would argue that here is a case for a mandatory death sentence.

(3a.) I’ll include anybody who uses a weapon, a firearm in particular and especially a career felon gang member in a commission of a crime, when death occurs, accidental or not should be given the death sentence; it is simple really, no gun present, no innocent dead, accidental or otherwise. This is the ultimate incentive for a felon not having a gun...period!

(4.) The only plea bargain allowed in a death penalty case, life in prison, and if you kill in prison, the death penalty.

Doug Yeomans
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I kind of like the idea of rapists, murderers and peepee touchers killing each other in prison. Isn't dying in prison already a death sentence...?

Rich Richmond
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“Isn't dying in prison already a death sentence...?” You ask.

That is contingent how you define dying in prison.

Convicted murders are allowed to get married in prison; Gay inmates included. Two day conjugal visits are allowed afterward. Children conceived during such a union (no limits) are taken care of via the taxpayer, including free college.

Then there are perks such as televisions in cells, tape players and radios; personal clothing, electric razors, musical instruments, food packages, and a well stocked commissary. They have one day family picnics.

They have their own prison baseball, football, basketball teams. They can get their GED and then move onto college although they never are getting out.

All of the above is general population, when you get to the honor blocks, add more perks and privileges.

Did I forget three hot meals and a cot, free medical and dental; the free medical that include trips to outside hospitals.

Lethal injection as you suggestion in post #2, or dying in prison; which would you choose?

And by the way, DY, Happy New Year.

Jason Crater
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Jeez Richard, now I want to go to prison.

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