Share The Blame
Seventeen weeks and no budget in sight: Incumbent 139th Assembly Member Steve Hawley has leveled blame at the Democratic Majority. He avoided mention that the Republican leadership has all their ducks in a row prepared to scuttle a state budget. It takes two to tango; only one to stonewall. The Republican leadership has manufactured a loggerhead, set to block budget passage.
Hawley proclaims, “… instead of doing the job that voters elected them to do, the Legislative majorities instead decided to gavel in and gavel out of session, leaving the budget to wait another week, if not another month.”
Shy the necessary 32 votes for passage, up against a partisan road block; what choice?
The Republican strategy is not limited to state government; it mirrors the GOP overall strategy. In Washington Senate Republicans, voting as a bloc, mounted a filibuster to derail campaign finance reform. Oddly enough, John McCain who championed reform with his McCain Feingold Act of 2004 voted against cloture, citing, “…opposing this motion (is) very simple – this is clearly a partisan attempt by the majority to gain an advantage in the upcoming election.” …A familiar ring?
I agree with Mr. Hawley’s closing remark- albeit painted with a wider brush: New York cannot afford this kind of incompetent leadership anymore. A Quinnipiac University Poll reveals 83% of New Yorkers feel their state government is dysfunctional. The partisanship has to end.
CM..It amazes me how those in
CM..It amazes me how those in power,the majority blames the minority for why we are in the shape we are in..On a state level and federal level..Steve Hawley is right..The Democratic Majority could have a budget passed tommorow if they wanted to...They can't agree amongst them self's what to do..To blame the Republicans is comical..I wonder if you were a Republican what your slant would be ..
CM, Mark is 100% right, your
CM,
Mark is 100% right, your side could have a budget anytime it wants. To say the minority, even taking your oblivious need to slant things, is a fault is dishonest and a bit shameful.
CM, how did the minority
CM, how did the minority block the budget. Am I wrong in thinking that the majority doesn't need even one member of the minority to pass a budget?
One of the biggest problems
One of the biggest problems is that New York is one of the BIGGEST "handout" states in the whole country. Take away the socialistic liberal welfare system and this great state may be able to mend itself.
Also C.M. I dont understand your majority/minority rant either. Wouldnt common sense say a MAJORITY would not have anything to fear from a MINORITY? Looks like the MAJORITY is not doing thier job. How is this not the case?
If New York's Gov't was made up of exactly 50% Republicans and 50% Democrats, I would gladly "share the blame" but thats not the case. No sale.
John, Charlie, and Tim, Let's
John, Charlie, and Tim,
Let's say that the GOP becomes the majority in Jan. and they bring down more problems on the state. Who do you blame then?
What and who will you blame when the Republicans don't make NYS the land of milk and honey as you hope?
Bea, Not being a Republican,
Bea,
Not being a Republican, if they get the chance to run everything, like your party is doing, and then perform in the same way, then I would give your side another chance.
But right now, this is an all Democrat show, and I have not seen you admit they are 100% at fault for not passing a budget since April 1st.
By the way, do you support the Democratic Party tax increase on clothing?
Bea, I asked a question, that
Bea, I asked a question, that wasn't a statement. I want to know what the Republicans are doing to block the budget? Does the majority need a member of the minority to vote for the budget or not?
As for who I blame, that is simple. The majority. I'm not a Republican either.
Bea, Unlike John and Charlie
Bea,
Unlike John and Charlie I am a proud republican and God willing my party WILL take control in January, but you have my word if the reckless, foolish spending continues I will have no one else to blame but them, and I will acknowledge that if that time comes.
Re-read my statement; it
Re-read my statement; it says, "share the blame." I place the blame exactly where it lies: partisanship. If the shoe fits- wear it. These representatives have failed to cooperate on the job they are elected to perform- specifically enact a budget necessary for this state to operate.
C.M. they comprehend only
C.M. they comprehend only what suits them, not what is written.
Haven't you figured that out yet.
John, I have no comment one way or the other on the clothing tax.
CM, We did read your
CM,
We did read your statement correctly, we don't agree.
Why should the minority share the blame for the majority failing to do its job? That is just stupid.
Bea, Nice dodge. People
Bea,
Nice dodge.
People will have to pay 4% more for clothing for their kids, and you have "no comment" to even support your party doing it?
C.M. Not only do I understand
C.M. Not only do I understand your view on partisanship, and how politicians on both sides of the aisle let it effect the job they do i agree with it, and am also angered by it.
What we dont understand is why the republican MINORITY who are powerless need to share blame with the democrats who have the MAJORITY and power.
Bea,
Come on now, to be fair many of your posts and your debates you have had on here displayed the ability to only "comprehend what only suited you" and to press your secular porgressive agenda. You are the ying to my yang, the Micheal Moore to my Rush Limbaugh. :)
CM, I'm not sure this one
CM, I'm not sure this one will pass the smell test. I know why your saying it and you do have a point. The problem is we know how the political game works. When your in the majority, your team has to agree on a budget. If they don't, the wheels just come off.
Bea, I'm sure our question is one that a lot of people will have when they read this statement. Casting us as Republican operatives doesn't answer the question, it avoids it.
If I ever figure out what
If I ever figure out what porgressive is, I might own up to having that agenda.
If you are referring to a progressive agenda, you are partially right.
There are certain aspects of the progressive agenda I endorse. There are others, because of personal opinion, I disdain.
If I'm needled, I'll admit to needling back. It is a trait I'm trying to curtail.
Getting into a spitting match over a clothes tax isn't one I chose to enter. No doubt when your guys get into Albany they'll repeal it. But, what if they don't? What happens next?
Bea, There was a discussion
Bea,
There was a discussion on here a long time ago that you and I were "key" players in, and i wish i could remember the topic but I cannot, and it was your typical hot button Rep/Dem topic debate where each side has a tendency to not only disagree, but to lean to thier extreme Right or Left. At one point in the debate you were talking directly to me and said you were a progressive, i always remembered that. :)
Boy i wish i could remember the topic...Welfare maybe? Does the Batavian have an archives? :)
That is why i called you a progressive.
EDIT: Hey Bea, I found it. I spent about an hour looking through old posts and happened apon the one about whether or not we would be better off with health care reform. You and I really got into it over my "lazy liberals" comment. The good news is we made up :)
Here is the last couple paragraphs in a huge comment you posted, I didnt think we needed to see the whole thing :)
"So Bea, your in the health food business huh? Well, I tip my hat and my cool ranch dorito's to you :)
I'm not in the health food business. I'm in the business of providing a service to senior citizens who live on a limited income. Yes, we have cool ranch doritos and Kutter's Cheese and juice, water, and soda along with other treats they enjoy.
The labeling of someone who may not agree with your politics is so wrong on so many levels. I am a progressive, I lean toward the liberal but I am far from lazy and worthless!"
I came to 2 conclusions while finding this quote.
1. I was right...WOOHOO
2. I have WAY to much time on my hands
On a serious note, you seem to NOT like the label of progressive and I didnt want you to think I just grabbed that out of mid air and threw it at you. I have ticked you off enough in the past and I know how you feel about "labeling" LOL
Tim wrote, "you have my word
Tim wrote, "you have my word if the reckless, foolish spending continues I will have no one else to blame but them ..."
Tim, you've holding your breath expecting Republicans to govern by conservative principles, better have someone around with a phone to call 9-1-1 because you'll soon be passing out.
It's not going to happen. The Republicans, regardless of what they say, love government, too. They need government to reward their cronies and supporters.
On the other hand, being in the minority gives them the freedom to stand on principle and oppose raising taxes and increasing spending and running up a deficit, so I don't see how that can be considered "a failure to cooperate."
The other problem I have with the "failure to cooperate" line of thinking is -- the minority party should NEVER cooperate. The majority needs opposition.
Further, if the majority is in a position of being unable to pass a budget without a minority or two vote -- good politicians know how to get those votes. Partisans are incapable of getting those votes. The lack of a budget proves one thing: Albany has been so sucked into a partisan mindset that it's completely dysfunctional. If the majority has been unable to swing the compromises necessary to get support of a budget, that's the majority's fault. It's a failure to understand how to legislate.
What Albany needs is a leader along the lines of Lyndon Johnson or Tip O'Neill or Newt Gingrich -- legislators who might talk a good game, but when it came time to get things done, they knew how to line up votes.
Passage of the budget bills
Passage of the budget bills failed, because the necessary 32 votes could not be had. On the Democratic side, three legislators withheld their votes until a decision is made regarding autonomy for SUNY/CUNY tuition. Two other Democrats were on vacation. On the Republican side, none present would break rank and vote to pass the bills. If we fault the five Democrats who failed muster; shouldn't we also fault the ample Republican legislators who were present, yet chose not to vote?
If Mr. Hawley had noted that his fellow Republicans jointly declined to support the bills- then cited specific objection to the content of those bills (as the deferring Democrats did), one might understand their rejection of the vote. Instead, without even noting his party's stance, he denounces the opposition party, solely responsible for the failure to pass a budget.
The math doesn't add up...
...and Charlie, I consider
...and Charlie, I consider you a savvy analyst of political gamesmanship. You know as well as I, the Republican strategy is to wash their hands ala Pontius Pilot. In this case the martyr is the State of New York, and the Democrats are left with the role of the mob. Pass or fail, the Roman Prefect can blame someone else.
By the way Tim, it's Cooler
By the way Tim, it's Cooler Ranch Doritos. I did like the Cool Ranch better, but they disappeared over ten years ago.
As much as I eat those darn
As much as I eat those darn things you would think I would have known that. Dang it, I have been corrected by a democrat :)
You win this round Barons :)
CM, I will agree to your last
CM, I will agree to your last statement. You are not going to get a Republican to lift a finger to help out with a Democrat budget. That is the thinking in Albany, it's not the people's budget, it's all for the party.
And all of the above is why
And all of the above is why I'm voting against every incumbent for state office this fall. I can't wait to pull that lever!! (oh wait...I'll be filling in a circle on a sheet of paper. Damn!! just doesn't have the same feel!)
I admit, like Bea, that I tend to lean toward democratic candidates, but, if the situation were reversed and Barons was part of a group that was stonewalling progress, I'd be voting for his opponent.
The way I look at it, if you're not part of the solution, you're part of the problem.
If more people adopted the "new broom" voting strategy we would be rid of people like Sheldon Silver, Antoine Thompson (I find him particularly greasy) - please note that both are democrats and for me symbolize all that's wrong with the state legislature and are major contributors to its dysfunction.
If the 'new broom' strategy does work, then the voters would have the attention of the legislature whose members would realize that (just like in the real world) if you don't do your job to your supervisor's satisfaction, you're fired!!
Am I being Pollyanna to think that this might actually happen? Probably. Am I going to continue to promote this voting strategy this fall? Absolutely.
Bea, This Democratic Party
Bea,
This Democratic Party budget calls for overall spending increases and big tax increases. Why should the minority vote for any of that?
For the record, while I decry
For the record, while I decry the lack of progress on the budget, I DO NOT support the increased and wasteful spending that is the end result of the members' efforts.
As Tim correctly points out above, New York is one of the biggest handout states in the nation and we can't afford it any more.
All the more reason to get rid of them all and elect representatives who will understand that they work for the voters...not the other way around.
In my view, the problem is
In my view, the problem is partisanship between the 2 "big government" parties, as many others have pointed out above. The rules regarding ballot access need to be loosened so other parties and more importantly, true independents have a better chance of getting on the ballot. Not only will I not be voting for any incumbents, but if I can vote on a line other than Republocratic or Demican, I will, as long as it's not an incumbent. Sounds arbitrary I know, but a shake up is necessary. Howard, NY doesn't need a political hack, al a LBJ, we need an outsider with great big balls. The snake pit needs to be emptied.
Going back and reading the
Going back and reading the original post by C.M. (which I should have done before commenting); I'd like to add that if more ballot access is made, more diverse party members and independents will be sitting in the assembly. No one party will be able to achieve majority and it'll be a bi-partisan body. Leaders could be elected from any party or none and every item will be voted on it's merits, not because the boss says so. Wishful thinking? Maybe, but more of the same just gets me upset. Speaking of upset, time to go watch New York Now.
C.M. stated " A Quinnipiac
C.M. stated " A Quinnipiac University Poll reveals 83% of New Yorkers feel their state government is dysfunctional. The partisanship has to end."
The other 17% are politicians, state employees, retirees of the state, and welfare recipients. The gravy train they are riding is functioning just fine in their minds.
C.M....So what are we to
C.M....So what are we to conclude ,that if you were in Albany instead of Mr.Hawley that you would be voting for every thing that he was against or against everything is for.....Its yes or no when you vote....The rest is meaningless....
CM thank you for answering
CM thank you for answering Charlie's question. The one Bea dodged.
So now we all know that the republicans decided not to vote. And that 2 democrats didn't show up to work and another 3 decided to withhold their vote because they didn't agree with the budget.
As a voter that is not registered to any party, I'm the type of voter both parties should be trying to impress.
The democratic party has done little to impress me.
The republican party is not doing so hot either.
Instead of dodging questions Bea maybe you should be going out of your way to explain your parties positions. Because all I see so far is the same attitude that has the state in the position it is in now.
Furthermore, CM I can't buy into republicans having to share the blame on the budget issue. The situation just shows that the democrats are unable to rein in three unwilling party members to vote in favor of their parties proposed budget. And also they are unable to make two members show up for a vote as important as this.
Jeremiah, They're not going
Jeremiah,
They're not going to try and impress you because they don't care about what you think. The reason why everyone is blaming each other, is that is how the system works.
My job in real life is to turn around broken businesses. There is a lot of blame to go around, but my job isn't to assign blame, it's to correct problems.
The reason why CM is on here telling Republicans to share the blame is because CM is running with the Democrats. They know that their party is a joke right now, they know that they're in a conservative area and they know that Hawley is overall well liked. This is apart of their strategy to show that CM would be better.
Here's the problem, people like you and I are sick of this crap. We are tired of "party" people speaking up on one side of the aisle instead of the greater whole. The reason why certain people won't answer your questions is because they don't have answers. That simple.
Vote for who you think has the best answer.
Mark, your assumption that
Mark, your assumption that yes or no are the only options available to a legislator, minimizes and essentially defies the very nature of legislative process. The purpose of legislative bodies is to reach consensus through dialogue, debate, negotiation and alliance-building. The end-product being a bill that has been jointly arrived at, shaped by all interested persons.
Deferring to party leadership undermines the very premise of good government. The latest addition to New York's political lexicon is "three men in a room" (or the more generous four men in a room). Regardless, three or four, the practice removes New York's legislative membership from the legislative process. Not only does it fly in the face of our state Constitution; it disenfranchises the citizens of this state.
I offer one prime example to bust the yes/no conundrum: Consider Assembly Bill 1867, officially the Farmworkers Omnibus Labor Standards Bill- otherwise known as The Farm Death Bill. Despite our assemblyman's rally against it, the bill passed. The Senate equivalent failed in that body's Agricultural Committee, but the bill hasn't gone away. Sen. Pedro Espada of the Bronx has revived it in modified form to circumvent the Agricultural Committee and reach the floor by way of the Senate Rules Committee.
A two-term Member of Assembly should have an inkling of any bill's chances of passage. Knowing that A 1867 was destined to pass, wanting to mitigate its impact on local farmers; this Legislator should have met with the sponsor of A 1867 with a Pro Farm Bill in hand. Work out an agreement to tack on legislation that would benefit farmers, offset the expense of workman's comp and unemployment insurance. ...Like declaring cultivated land an agricultural trust- immune to real property taxation?
I do not see crossing one's fingers and hoping something bad goes away as effective.
CM, You know darn well Mr.
CM,
You know darn well Mr. Silver will not allow a minority bill be considered.
And when (if elected) you vote against Silver for Assembly leader, none of yours will be considered either. You'll be lucky to even get a phone.
John, If the tables were
John,
If the tables were turned, do you believe that the GOP majority leader would allow a minority bill to be considered?
Bea, If I was you, I'd duck
Bea,
If I was you, I'd duck the answer, but no I do not.
Phil, if the Democrats are
Phil, if the Democrats are merely rebuilding image, how does a member of another party make them look better? Are you suggesting my candidacy is a make-nice after the Gore/Nader tiff or do you mean it's less partisan?
I appreciate your attempt to explain my reasoning to Jeremiah- but you got it wrong. I've credited both sides of the aisle with partisanship. It's a no-brainer. If only one side engaged in it, it wouldn't be an issue.
I trust the latitude afforded me by the Democrats. I could not have accepted endorsement otherwise.
John- as much as you huff and
John- as much as you huff and puff about Sheldon Silver, I will not reduce myself to defeatism. This is our state, and Silver is one man. I have yet to meet anyone who speaks well of him. What makes you think his leadership will survive the next change of guard?
That's all well and good CM,
That's all well and good CM, but this article sounded nothing like more of the same. Telling people to share blame is fine, but when the majority does absolutely nothing to move progress forward, it's more than a little suspect to hear a "democrat" accuse his opponent of inaction.
Further, I don't think I have got anything in my explaining to Jeremiah wrong. If you were running with the republicans, you would be on here jousting that the Dems have done nothing. It's all just a little insincere and I am tired of it all.
Last, I think that I am dead on that no one in your affiliated party will come on here and answer these questions. They don't have an answer to any of them. They hear what is happening and they know it's stupid too, but blind partisanship keeps them dodging.
C.M...I do think running for
C.M...I do think running for this office is very honorable..I give you credit for what you are doing..But that said i think you should of challenged Mr.Hawley for the Republican spot on the ballot..I have never seen you as a Democrat..And to now take up their cause of running all of Albany is a big gamble...Seems like you are selling yourself out to be on the ballot...People want the Democrats out not more of them in ..At least run as a Independent..The Democrats have lost all credibility with the public..Starting at the top with Patterson,he committed a crime with witness tampering and will not be charged,Spitzer should be in jail he had to quit..Show us something positive that the Democrats stand for here in New York...What happened to my Star rebate...
...And I would be remiss,
...And I would be remiss, failing to note- allowing party leadership to determine New York State's lawmaking encourages national intrusion in local politics. Take notice of the GOP role in Republican Assemblywoman Dede Scozzafava's bid for the NY 23rd Congressional seat.
I wouldn't be running if the
I wouldn't be running if the opportunity had not presented itself. Speaking of my candidacy without the Democratic Party is contradictory.
The Green Party is carrying independent petitions for me. Email me at BaronsNYAssembly@aol.com. I'll connect you with a petition.
CM, Also take note of Obama
CM,
Also take note of Obama interfering with Patterson.
As to challenging Steve
As to challenging Steve Hawley on his own ticket... Maybe Dick Siebert could best assess the likelihood of that.
John, you have stumbled upon
John, you have stumbled upon something we agree on!
Mark, my objection to
Mark, my objection to partisanship defines my political beliefs. No one sold me on the Green Party; I chose my affiliation out of duty to that which I hold in high regard. If you think that I compromised in accepting the endorsement of the Democratic Party, then you must believe that I have abandoned my own principles.
CM, there is little doubt
CM, there is little doubt that most if not all the people who regularly post feel you are a good guy as I do. I believe that you personally do not have any agenda other than what is in our districts best interest. The problem comes in when you take sides with these State Democrats. They are a complete disgrace. This is coming from a guy who leans left, likes Obama and can't wait to vote for him again.
You do your campaign no good snuggling up to these state dirtbags and writing anything in their defense. They have no defense. They are a boat anchor around your neck. Toss them over board and NEVER look back. Stress your independence and never, never be their mouth piece again. They will never help you and will only use you up.
Charlie, what state Democrats
Charlie, what state Democrats has C.M. defended? Who, exactly are the dirtbags? As a former Democrat County Chair are you now including the county committee in your opinion of State Democrats?
Bea, of course I'm not
Bea, of course I'm not talking about local Dems. You guys are given no respect or input in what that group does so, why defend them? Why dirty yourselves? Why let CM hurt himself sticking his neck out for them?
If I was still chair, I would have given him the same advice. Obviously not in public.
Bea, that whole mess above is
Bea, that whole mess above is defense of the state establishment. Blaming the other party because, downstate Dems are unable to pull their pants up and get to work passing a budget. Just pathetic!
Who the heck is feeding CM the state talking points? Muzzle them. They are not helping the man. Take a look around? The guy is running in Republican country and he is being given partisan propaganda! You got to be kidding me if you think that's a game changer.
I have something you don't
I have something you don't Charlie. I have had the opportunity to meet with C.M. on several occasions.
I can tell you that he IS his own man.
If you took the opportunity to meet him, you'd see and hear the same thing.
He has been critical of what is happening in Albany. He has not sugar coated the shortcomings of the current Dems in Albany.
The truth is, you, John, Mark and a few others are so dedicated to Steve, that nothing C.M. says will ever satisfy you.
Whether he wins this election or not, he is still on hell of a guy.
Perhaps, this Republican county isn't ready for someone intelligent, witty, literate, and a man who works long hours.
John has called him dishonest. You try to make him out to be a fool for even considering a run in our district.
He is neither dishonest nor a fool.
Trust me, I dare you to find some time to meet with him one on one and walk away believing he doesn't have something to offer.
Bea, "Intelligent, witty,
Bea,
"Intelligent, witty, literate and a man who works long hours" That could also be Hawley (remember, he runs and owns his own business and employees people).
I have known Hawley for about 20 years, like him, and will vote for him.
I do not know CM. My impression of him was formed when before he decided to run, he was calling names and made fun of personal appearance. His irrational criticism of Mr. Hawley helping to provide free (no tax dollars at all) bus rides to DC so our World War II veterans could see the memorial dedicated to them before they pass away also turned me off to him
Thanks for those impassioned
Thanks for those impassioned words, Bea.
I only know CM through what he presents on here. I have never met face to face. You say that people should take the time to get to know him. I challenge that with, he should take the time to get to know us.
Where is he? Is he hosting events? Is he in the communities? I have heard nothing, seen nothing , except for what is on here. Has he gone door to door? What neighborhoods?
I'm glad that those of you in the party got to meet him, but that does nothing for me and others like me who have never met him. Steve Hawley has already came to my house and spoke to me about my concerns. When is CM going to do that?
I am not a Republican, but what does that matter anyway? I believe that politicians should be available, both here and in person. Steve does one, CM does the other. I want real dialog, not blame (what this article come across to me).
Bea, there is no reason to go
Bea, there is no reason to go off the deap end. I don't believe CM is a fool or a puppet but, candidates especially new ones need help. My comment was directed towards tactics and what I felt was his strongest angle. I also understand that my advise might not be fully trusted since I made it clear long ago that my vote for Steve was personal. It's also pretty clear that CM isn't going to win. That has nothing to do with his intentions, experience or any other attribute. I know CM is a good guy, I said it repeatedly now.
We live in a deep Republican county. I believe very strongly that the worst thing CM can do is make the race partisan. CM needs to hit home his independence from Albany and politics. He also can NOT speak badly about someone as well liked and personable as Steve. CM needs a lot of Republicans to check his box and that will never happen with the corse he is on. All he can hope to do on this path is excite the local Democrats and gather no more than 30% of the vote.
With no money and little help CM will be worked into the ground. Steve doesn't have to say anything except what he has, over and over like a drum beat. His message says, Look at those state Democrats, they are incompetent and can't even pass a budget.
I have a question. Did there
I have a question. Did there need to be exactly 32 votes to pass this budget? Why couldn't they just have a majority of the people that showed up to work?
How can we get rid of the current s.o.p. in Albany?
Regardless of who I cast my vote for my expectations do not change of the person that is actually elected.
So If the person I vote for does not get elected how do I go about ensuring that the person that is voted in will still represent me and my fellow AD 139 residents interests instead of just the interest of their party?
Because when I cast that vote I'm voting for a person not a party. These people, both republican and democrat are getting on my nerves. They are suppose to be working for ME, not their political party.
Mr. Silver is a despicable person. I think there needs to be and amendment to which ever mandate there already is in regard to passing a budget on time. That amendment should include and automatic loss of position as speaker for failure of enforcing the mandate.
Phil, I do my best to meet as
Phil, I do my best to meet as many people as possible- to date I have been door to door in Barker, Carlton, Kent, Hilton, Holley, Medina, Morganville, Byron, Bergen, Stone Church, Parma, Clarkson, North Bergen, Elba, South Byron and Alabama. I have been at the Stafford Carnival, Hamlin Carnival, Oatka Festival, Genesee County Fair and Orleans County Fair. I fully intend to extend my visits to the remainder of the district between now and November. I plan to be at the Elba Onion Festival this weekend and the Churchville Lions Club Country Fair on the 21st. I welcome any group that would like to schedule a personal meet-up to contact me, BaronsNYAssembly@aol.com.
Jeremiah, there are 62 Senators; 32 votes constitutes a majority.
C.M. This might be a really
C.M. This might be a really dumb question, but why is Batavia not on your door to door list?
He just hasn't gotten here
He just hasn't gotten here yet Tim. He's managed to cover almost half the district door to door before July was over, I'd say that's rather impressive. I know I'm biased, but come on...
I agree, come on, Tim. The
I agree, come on, Tim. The man works shift work. That means, he is knocking on doors at times when he, most likely, should be resting at home.
Where did Tim get the impression that Batavia wasn't on CM's list?
The areas CM mentioned, Barker, Carlton, Kent, Hilton, Holley, Medina, Morganville, Byron, Bergen, Stone Church, Parma, Clarkson, North Bergen, Elba, South Byron and Alabama, are places he has knocked on doors, not his complete list of places he plans to go.
How hard was that to understand?
Thank you Chris, I would
Thank you Chris, I would agree that is impressive.
Bea, Call off your dogs...woof woof. It was just a question, absolutely nothing was being implied. Sheeeesh, bad day at the office? As you were handing out snacks to the elderly today did a pudding cup leak all over you? :)
Simmer down now...LOL
Tim, To be fair, door to door
Tim,
To be fair, door to door in a district this large is not going to be easy, maybe not possible given the time needed.
You can't go early in the day because most people are working. And you don't want to ring their doorbell at dinner time. And, after about 8 PM, people are not too happy to come to the door. So, you have a limited time frame, and if somebody wants to talk with you, time slips by fast.
The best you can expect is appearances at community events and selected neighborhoods to be visited.
I totally agree with you John
I totally agree with you John Batavia is kinda huge for a "door to door campaign, and again I am not trying to imply anything at all. and also again, i think it is very impressive what he has done "door to door" already. The only reason why i asked is I thought it was odd that Batavia (the heart of Genesee County) was not on the list. We are pretty much the largest population of all those towns listed by Chris and I guess I just expected Batavia to be 1st on the list :) <---- Notice the smiley face...LOL
Tim, Glad you asked about a
Tim,
Glad you asked about a bad day at the office.
But, this isn't about my day at the office. It is about being fair to C.M. and respecting the fact that he has a full schedule.
I'm sure you understand that.
Honestly- it wasn't about
Honestly- it wasn't about priorities; my decision on where to visit was strictly based on logistics. I had two weeks of vacation time, and I chose the most far-flung areas first. I can visit the closer towns, villages and the City just as effectively outside my work hours.
I don't want to tug on any
I don't want to tug on any heartstrings, but I did expend my annual vacation for campaigning.
Bea, So no bad day at the
Bea,
So no bad day at the office then? Good. :) Maybe its the heat that is causing all the sensitivity and short fuses around here. I for one am sick of it (the heat) and cant wait for fall :(
I think this was a huge misunderstanding, it was just an innocent question because i did not see Batavia on the list, there was no other motivation whatsoever in asking the question. C.M.'s busy schedule was the last thing on my mind. Its kinda like when you do those brain teaser things and you see things like this:
1,4,7, "fill in next # in the sequence", 13,16,19. For me Batavia was my "10". I just seen city after city after town after village listed and innocently wondered where good ol batavia was.
I am probally one of if not THE most brutal person on the topic of non working people on these forums. (welfare people, ect) So if ANYONE can respect a man that goes out and WORKS all day then still has time to do something insane like a good old fashioned door to door campaign, when his body is probally fighting him every step of the way, then sister he will get more respect from me than anyone else. :)
And get grilled by people who
And get grilled by people who will go in the voting booth and brainlessly vote all Republican anyways. You're right Tim he is earning respect. I try to vote more on character than ideology. A person of good character and strong ethics will usually do the right thing. Which is of course why there are few of that type of person in politics. Keep the faith C.M. Don't listen to the negativity.
So no bad day at the office
So no bad day at the office then? Good. :)
If you have an hour, I'll give you a rundown of the bad day at the office, starting with Sunday. Yes, when you live above the store, even a day when it is closed brings drama.
Suffice to say this heat is doing a job on my volunteer staff. They are having a difficult time breathing and two are in the hospital. Ergo, short staffed.
So, if I sound a mite miffed. I do apologize.
Bea, No problem... You live
Bea,
No problem...
You live above a store? For some reason i was under the impression you lived at the 400 towers. When you displayed those pics of that big fire a couple months back I thought the perspective was from the 400 towers, plus i swear you got part of the towers parking lot in the pic too. :)
lol, I do live at the Towers.
lol, I do live at the Towers. The store is the 400 Towers' Snack Shop. It is staffed by residents. I do the scheduling, the books, the general day to day operation. One volunteer has retail experience and does the ordering, dealing with the vendors, etc. I call him "Shop and Stock".
So, for the first time in my life, I live above the 'store'. It is open six days a week from 9am to 9pm for the convenience of the residents and guests.
For the record Bea, I hope
For the record Bea, I hope you dont think i am a stalker, cause I am not :)
My grandmother lived at the towers for a long time. She passed away 23 years ago, and I remember spending ALOT of time up there with her. I would always ask if I could walk to "grandma's house" after getting out of school (middle school, just up the street) and i would spend the day with her. The really interesting thing about your fire pics is that from the view you had I swear you were in her apartment. I tried to judge how high up you were from those pics.
When you walked in the building you took a right to go up the elevator to the 7th floor room 726 (i cant believe i still remember that) and she had the identical view you do again judging by those fire pics. Those pics brought back a TON of memories for me :)
Your grandmother was on the
Your grandmother was on the east wing, I'm on the west wing (appropriate, isn't it?).
The community is very active. We have the snack shop. I write a monthly newsletter. The folks are up playing Wii golf and bowling until all hours, plus a long list of other activities.
So glad you have good memories of visiting your grandmother. Cherish them.
LOL Bea, Love tha "Left"
LOL Bea, Love tha "Left" "Right" Reference :)
LOL Bea, Love that "Left"
LOL Bea, Love that "Left" "Right" Reference :)