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May 30, 2009 - 8:46am

HUD injustice here in Batavia

posted by daniel cherry.

A womanfrom HUD,Pathstone inspected our apatment on may 15th 09.

The woman was walking around our apartment, looking for problems.She was counting bedrooms.She asked where is the third bedroom.When she finally found the bedroom/hallway.She said thats the third bedroom?I said that's exactly what i said when i was looking at it.But we were nearly homeless so i took it.She said its messy there are too many boxes, and the door is blocked.I said"If it will make you happy i will clean it up.(.All my pictures from my childrens whole lives are in there.And empty bandage boxes from the last year.If she'd bothered to look in the hallway/bedroom she'd have seen a matress).Immediately after that she goes to our bathroom.She says we put a hole in the door.She writes it down.I said no that hole was in there when we moved in!!I took pictures then.She the HUD /pathstone apartment inspector started asking me how much we pay.Why was she asking that?She asked how much do you pay?I told her 2/3 of the money is taken from my boys social services money without my consent.It's a new law.She said youd be surprised how many people don't know how much they pay(.I had gone to a HUD/Pathstone meeting on april 28th.They ask and you must prove your finances.)The Inspector said she will look and if she doesn't see anything about a hole in the door we put it there.I called and spoke to her.She said its not written down and yes you did put a hole in the door.I was very angry.I told her we fixed this place up.When we moved in the garage was full of junk.It took 2 giant dumpsters to get it out.My boys and i cleaned up this property!!There were wires hanging out of the kitchen outlet.The basement was full of junk.She said ok if you don't like it file for a hearing with her boss.(We did that last year and were made to pay extra money for the 3rd bedroom when we were kicked out at 119 state st illegally).We were denied appeal.HUD rented our old apartment.I lost my whole security there.Why? because they said we ruined the kitchen floor.Because the refigerator leaked.I'd be willing to bet that HUD and the city plumbing inspector overlooked what we were threwn out for last year.I will ask again at the city.Hud said o its too bad they never inspected it after we moved.It was better than before we moved in 119 state).Do i see a pattern here?I think so.May 21st 09.We get our letter from HUD Pathstone.It says they raised the amount the landlord gets by 30$ 880$They raised the amount we pay by 100$a month.We are on rent control housing supposedly.We live on 10,500 a year.That is a lot to us.

So i called HUD Pathstone again.I asked why are we being charged so much more.She said it's because we don't use the (alleged) third bedroom.It is a hallway.I said yes we do.The boys argue over who wants to sleep in the cell.I said i want a hearing.She said call Buffalo and gives me the number.The same number that i called last year and they don't care at all.I won't call it again.HUD Pathstone is to reinspect the apartment.Why didn't they wait until then?O i am really upset.This will affect my boys.I also asked her about the holes in the doors.She said o we're not saying you did it.Do ya think our land?lord will charge us for it when we get threwn out again with a little help form HUD?I do.Why should we pay for holes we did not make?

I called my land/lord.He the owner of 4 highlnd pk and 63 other properties says we are good tenants.He will work with us.He knows we cleaned up his property.We were not paid for it.He said he was on the phone all day with people complaining about HUD Pathstone problems and he's tired of it.

See if you complain to HUD Pathstone about problems you are risking being expelled from your residence.Like i was last year.There are laws to protect tenants.Like you can withhold rent until things are fixed.But if you are on HUD and withhold rent.They say you will be shut off HUD.Because you can not withhold rent under New York Landlord tenant laws.Real Property laws.There are laws that say HUD Pathstone land/lords can charge more too.
 

So in my opinion people on HUD ? Pathstone are being denied their rights.They are it is true.And where does all that money go to?(It's not going to the properties).HUD ? Pathstone they do not protect the tenants.They protect the landlords.People have to fear them.They can destroy your life in a heartbeat.And make it so you can not afford to buy your children ,clothes or eat.Me i will fight with every ounce of my being for our rights.And i will risk it all.I can not go through this every year!!Mabe if more people did what i am going to do it would be fixed.Because our HUD systym is broken.So if someone sees this write to HUD in washington.Not buffalo.Write senators and congressman.Write OBAMA.Tell them without fear what is going on here.And most likely across the nation.

HUD / Pathstone is causing me trauma.I have had more than my share of trauma caused by not only them but also the courts in this city.What is our population now?I thought it was 24,000 years ago.And dropping.Mabe this will touch prominent people the wrong way.So mabe i will have to post it somewhere else.But i will.I will copy and paste this till my fingers are raw!! Why don't people in Batave have the same rights as other cities?Guilty till proven innocent.The cost is enormous.But that is whole other story or is it?Prominent people have rights to do anything and it is ok.Liberty and justice for some.

 

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Bea ,it's hard for me to focus on just this, when it all has to do with last year.What we want is a speedy hearing.I filed and asked the 12th.I filed for the amount of rent the 4th.I want and asked for a hearing with a lawyer as soon as possible.I want a stenographer there.O r a full record of the hearing.Like when i went to a social service hearing.I asked to waive the informal hearing.I want to know how much we pay in rent before july 1st.I want a detailed account of who ""said"" they were threatened and why.Id like to read HUD laws and have them readily available to all.I want my boys and i to never ,go through what we did last year, ever again.Or any other HUD recipient to have to.I want for my boys and i to be treated like real people.I want what is just that is all.To enjoy the yard our garden and relax.To know we are safe and have a home.
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That's not a threat. A threat would be "Ha! You made a video and now I am going to take your children because of it." He didn't say that. He believes that you are creating waves. In a system that is eager to unload people, because of budgetary reasons, you made yourself an easy target. He doesn't threaten anything or anyone. He's just telling you that your brought it on yourself. Its like work, if you work half as hard as the next guy but enough that you aren't a detriment, you get to keep your job until there is some downsizing and you are first on the list to go because your a problem.
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HUD has a website with many of the answers to your questions. The Attorney General's office has published a document, which is available online, about tenants' rights. I'm not sure how much research you've done, but there is a lot out there for people to find. From what I understand, most of what you have talked about is actually legal to do. It might not be right, but it is legal.
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Chelsea i have not found actual HUD laws.I found real property laws.I do not believe it is legal, to not give someone a hearing.
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Peter it is saying that.Hes saying its good.And i should have my children punished for making a video.If it is a he.If that is their name.I do not agree.Do you and he or whatever have an interest?I know what a threat is.A video is not a threat..........................................
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And it's not legal to punish someone who complains for good cause especially period.It is legal to complain.
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Check out this site. I think it has what you're looking for. http://www.hud.gov/offices/adm/hudclips/
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Beth thanks.I know most people are good hearted.Not many disagreed.I wonder what the percentage is who don't.I think HUD should be bringing a camera with them for record.I have told the truth the best i could.But i put the way i feel too.I would not make a good reporter.How would i have an opinion then?I wish someone like John Stossil would help us.It could help many.Many living in fear of homelessness if they complain.I can't even sleep wondering what will i do.Nobody deserves this.How can this happen in the USA?I have found out some information.But i will not share it here.I will update on when our hearing is.I know the 8th was the video.The 9th was supposed to be a hearing.But there was none cause of the video=fact.And the 9th was our termination.It takes one day for mail.Its dated the 9th.I got it the 12th terminated for no reason other than a video.It was the day of reckoning anyway.So why go out with no fight for our rights...dan
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I have an interest, it is my tax dollars that are funding you. If I had my way, HUD wouldn't exist or it would have a time limit on how long it can be used like unemployment. I understand you fighting for this, but that doesn't mean I support it. If you can photograph so well, why don't you open a business? You already have a camera and a computer. That's pretty much most of your capital expenses for freelance work such as weddings. Create a portfolio of your best shots and submit it to a magazine or to an art studio or to a photo studio. There is no reason you can't put your efforts into trying to find work instead of complaining about the system that takes money from achievers and hands it to you. I don't want your kids to suffer, they are the only innocent ones in this case. But to be honest, its not intelligent to go making waves when everyone is looking to save money.
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Mr O'brien that is definately discrimination.You gonna buy me 6000$ camera?And an apple computer.If i had like 50,000 to start mabe i could.You gonna order picss?I am not making waves Sec 8 is.They are violating civil liberties here in batavia ny.But i guess it doesn't matter right Mr O'brien?All people are to be treated equal.Not just the rich ones.You are wrong.And why aren't section 8 laws readily available to everyone?Why is access denied?I filmed that too for the next video.I found what i was looking for.I'm not finished.But i found this too this is what needs to happen here. http://realflatbush.blogspot.com/2008/04/new-section-8-discrimination-la.... I guess you'll have copy an paste it.If you are so worried about tax dollars then why didn't you read more carefully.HUD landlords can rent gouge with your money legally. By the way i never was paid for putting videos and images on here.I wanted to share my art with people.Of course art probably isn't important to you. I never saw a lawyer offer to help us here as of now.We will document this story to the end.It's not too much to ask for a hearing expedited.You keep thinking like you do.It's not making the world a better place is it?I was already suffering.Now my boys suffer too..We shall prevail.Doesn't the good guy always win? People are terminated for making waves.Asking for a hearing.Asking why rent is up?Its wrong period.
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And i searched till 3 am to try and find the laws.If someone can find section 8 termination laws id like to know.We are being denied due process of law here.We want a hearing.So we can appeal.Read about patstone on my blog.See if there's a complaint place.It doesn't say in the constitution some people should be treated equal does it:?
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Here are all of the laws that HUD has: http://www.access.gpo.gov/nara/cfr/waisidx_00/24cfr982_00.html Here is a link to what defines termination: http://frwebgate.access.gpo.gov/cgi-bin/get-cfr.cgi?TITLE=24&PART=982&SE... Link to information about your rights to a hearing: http://frwebgate.access.gpo.gov/cgi-bin/get-cfr.cgi?TITLE=24&PART=982&SE... It took me less than 5 minutes. I googled "Section VIII Termination". All of your laws are there. Here is a link to NYS HUD Tenant rights: http://www.hud.gov/local/ny/renting/tenantrights.cfm Attorney General's document on Tenant's rights: http://www.oag.state.ny.us/bureaus/real_estate_finance/pdfs/tenants_righ... Need anything else?
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Okay if we want equal treatment, then I want government money to pay for my residence as well. There was no discrimination in what I wrote. I also mentioned options that don't require capital. Your camera seems to take pictures that are terrific. Obviously you know about lighting and such. Your excuse is basically "It's too hard" Yes I might order pics if your work is good. I am getting married next summer. Art does matter, except when the government subsidizes it. Why would you think I dislike art? Never give for free what someone is willing to pay you for. The landlords aren't gouging, there is no such thing. They own the property, they set the rent. If its too much find somewhere else to live. Same with gas. If the price is too high, go somewhere else. Competition keeps prices down. I never said it was right that you are being terminated for making waves, but you didn't help your case by filming the video. Do you know how people become rich? They find what they are passionate about and then find a way to make money doing that. To them its not work anymore. They don't dread going to the office, they enjoy it. If you enjoy taking great pictures, try to do something with that. Look to calendar making companies or those motivational poster companies. You think I am being mean to you when really I am trying to get you to help yourself. A lawyer is not going to help pro bono. The cases that lawyers take for no monetary compensation still give the lawyer something whether its legal standing or publicity. Your case offers neither. You will need to hire someone if you want legal help. I did my part making the world a better place already. Now I am working on Batavia.
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Thanks Chelsea.
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Chelsea thank you so much from the bottom of my heart.I looked for like 18 hours to find this.I found that HUD is "supposed" to go by state laws.All we want is what is fair and just.A hearing with a stenographer or tape.Like hearing are supposed to be.The woman i liked no longer works there.I wonder why they made her send us the termination?I liked Jennifer. I really have enjoyed the Batavian.And it saves trees too.Where else can people tell, the "other side" of a story?Not just what a report says or leaves out. How i feel is on here.I love my boys.I have tried so hard.We don't deserve to be, terminated.If we had a fair hearing last year none of this would be happening.We did not.Me i don't even agree with some HUD laws.Why are there laws?If they are not followed? The majority try to help us my boys and i.The lord is on our side.I believe.Right after i spoke to pastor Dan he prayed for us.I saw that Chelsea had found what i was looking for all that time.There are good people who don't judge you.I would never want my boys someday to say what Peter said or what j hale said.They may be rich someday too.But they will never think like these people do.They will be trying to help people. We were already suffering before this happened.It's like HUD kicking a dead horse here.I sometimes get to run Iv's at home so i can take care of the boys.They are good kids.They help their dad.We are a family familys stick together. If someone tried to hurt your family would you do what i am to save them?We are people too.Being made to suffer cause HUD doesn't like a video.We are intimidated by HUD workers.HUD workers lie about us.We deserve a hearing now.Not next month.It is about the amount we pay.How do we pay?Why havn't they inspected as prescribed by law? I am a single disabled dad.How can this happen?Our civil rights have been violated.People sue for broken nails.Would a lawyer help us if they know the have a suit?
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What did I say that bothered you so?
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Peter who cares my boys are on lock down.And guess what im ready are you?
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Dan - you lament about no attorneys will help you in almost every single post. Have you actually called any or do you somehow think they're going to read about your plight and seek you out? If your family was a member of Flight #3407 that might be the case but I doubt they're going to be tripping over themselves representing you. Stop playing the victim and take charge of your situation. This country is full of stories of people that have overcome far greater adversity than you're facing, gotten through it, and have gone on to have a better life than they ever could have possible imagined. Life isn't fair. It is what it is. It's how you deal with it that matters.
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??? You're ready? For what exactly?
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double post
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Huh? Ready? In case the bad men who stole money from a bank come to my house? I am in Henrietta right now. You're only ready to take money you haven't earned. (Hey just like the bank robbers and you also do it at the point of the gun only you let the government hold the gun for you) Up till now I have been nice. I am sick of people like you who think they are entitled to my money to pay for your mistakes in life. I don't care how or why you are disabled. I don't care why you are on HUD. What I do know is that you are addicted to handouts. I can easily assume you voted for Obama as well. How's that working out for you? He got that woman in Florida a house, maybe you should ask. You have no right to housing. You have not had a civil right infringed upon. I am not rich, far from it. But I have taken the time to make the best of myself from a shaky beginning. You need to do something for yourself that doesn't include being a moocher of society. I hope your boys do go to foster care because any values you are teaching them are going to lead to more mooching. They deserve the ability to advance in the world and if this is any example of how you run your life, you cannot show them how. I have done nothing but try to give you suggestions to get you out of your rut. Read this story hopefully it give you some sort of inspiration http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/c/a/2009/06/04/MNJQ1807U... You are a sad man who sees no way out of his position. Meanwhile people are trying to get you to help yourself and you think they are out to get you.
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Ok Dan, you now have a lot of information to use. With this information, you were given a lot of resources in those documents, now is the time to use them. A lawyer isn't going to just magically call you, you need to put some effort into it.
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Dan I feel very sorry for you. I cant understand why the woman from HUD would conduct herself that way, in front of your boys. She pretty much threatened these kids very foundation, home, and safehaven, stating the things she did, in front of them. I'm sure she wouldnt like it done to her children. Just keep pressing on, be firm, and dont bow down to their accusations. Make them prove the damage was done by you. When they can't, take them to court for deframation,and more. As for the landlord, he is getting a garrenteed check every month, so he could care less. Unless they have walked in your shoes being disabled, and trying to provide a home for your kids, can they judge. Stay strong, and fight the good fight! God Bless Your family
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Dan, Jennifer still works there. my friend talked to her on the phone yesterday.
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I hope your boys do go to foster care because any values you are teaching them are going to lead to more mooching. They deserve the ability to advance in the world and if this is any example of how you run your life, you cannot show them how.Peter Obrien Man you are rotten to the core.I do not place those values on my children.I am trying my best so they don't have to be poor.So they do not have to go through this.You are wrong.I'm not a bank robber.If you like art so much go to the social club 25 liberty and look at it.You can buy it. Yes i voted for Obama.At least i voted.Yes we have had rights violated how do you know are you a lawyer?HUD is out to get us.We complained how dare us ask why rent controlled housing went up? Your in the military.My son Jimmy wants to go fight.And you say he should be in a foster home.Who the blank are you?To say these things?By the way i could not be in the military cause they don't want disabled people.I do not agree with this war either.You gladly pay for that and bailouts right? You pay landlords HUD.HUD buys landlords homes so they can make giant Huuuuge' amounts off poor people.We live there.You have cut me down the whole time on here.Yea you sure helped. I will not put on here what im going to do so they can read it.I will not lose this case.We will get a day in court its the law.That is all i can say.We have god and many people on our side.Bet you really hated the story of poor Jesus right? Poor people aren't always moochers of society like you say.How bout people who lie and get HUD and work hate them too?Is that what they teach you in the military to hate.Kill.Blow up everything.Do as your told even if ya know it is wrong.Does the government tell you everything or do they have secrets?I don't want Jimmy to end up like you a hater.Your entitled to yer opinion and i mine. We might be poor but we have a lot you don't.Everyone deserves to be treated equal no matter what you think. If your in Henrietta why do ya even bother with this site?You have never even been in Elba.What the? By the way i know what mistakes i made i should have gone to college and then had kids.I never should have wanted to be an electrician and then had a bad leg.You need an attitude adjustment is what i think.Is this what you will teach yer kids?I bet mine will be way better people than yours will.If by some unfortunate reason you ever have any. I am using what laws i was given i just can't say how yet.Can i?HUD people read this don't they?Hey i know someone who was in the military who was on HUD do you hate them too?They have a trach from desert storm.Cause nobody told the about the gas nice eh.They would never ever complain they're scared of HUD. I dont like any of your comments really.When does the batavian get an iggy button like yahoo has and then i will not see what you wrote.You don't know me.Saying kids should be in foster care is wrong.And that would cost you more.Maybe you just hate everyone right?So yer not prejudiced.
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Gabor dave wonder why they said that to my worker then?Hmm.
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You will find out some day, about maternal, and paternal love, and dedication Peter. I cant believe you said that! OMG that was low as you could go. I think you owe Dan an apology. God forbid you and Chelsea have kids some day, and someone says that to you. I cant believe Howard puts up with this nonsence. UG
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Dan, I dont know if there is more then one jennifer but the younger new gal is still on the job. Maybe she is not handling your case.
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Dan owes me money. I am not apologizing for that. I could go lower but to not see that I was trying to help him help himself is blindness. And then to have him say that what I was trying to do was mean spirited is beyond the pail.
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Karen,I didn't want people to feel sorry.I want them to know the way it is.They didn't say it to my children.They did this all to them Karen.I appreciate your comment.Like most it was kind.Most are kind i am seeing on here.And may be their right some.I should have gone about this differently.But i can't get a newscaster at my house so i thought id tell the story.I should have skipped the details may be.May be i took freedom of speech to the extreme.Too late now though.No lawyer is going to help unless we pay them.Or if we are evicted like last year.I must be my own lawyer i guess.And i will fer my boys.I will be strong and keep on truckin.Daniel he wants to be a trucker.Yesterday it was something kids on lock down.It made me forget this for awhile. Yea saying someone did something they did not do is a crime.Its not defamation.Its falsely reporting an incident.Id be jailed for it. I am doing all i can do.What i need is a break away from here.Going camping or something fun. I learned most people are nice and don't judge you.That is consoling in itself Karen.Very therapeutic.Thanks.
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I had a feeling there was something more to the story. Feeling sorry for people only gets you so far, try getting involved then let us see what you post. I fear attacks when i stick up for mr. injustice .
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Peter, You said you are not employed, ok, hard luck or lazy (by your reasononing)? Can yougo back to the Navy, or are you going to just stay home (I am trying to sound like you)? Are you now, or have you ever, drawn unemployment pay? If you have, then you owe me money (by your reasoning).
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Peter nice story.You must really hate the shoeshine guy.Or are you saying we should live in a box?I have been homeless.I worked.I worked at the engine house #1.I needed medication.Ciproflaxacin.I was guinea pig for it at strong a study in the 80s.It cost 80$ a day.Since i worked i couldn't get it.Until i lost half my foot then i did.That was a little too late then.There are many stories of other people like these.Not just us.If HUD recipients complained they'd have their kids in the same boat.Iff all this is ok then why do clients have to fear HUD?Landlords do not fear them.Do they?They kick back and collect cash.
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John, I am employed, I have no work to do. The 15% is all here and employed waiting for work when the design teams are finished. I draw unemployment during shutdown weeks. So far thats been 1 week $300. Next week is another $300. Unemployment at least is limited.
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Dan, Never did I say that your situation is completely your fault. But you decided that I was demonizing you by offering solutions to your condition. How and why you are where you are doesn't affect the future.
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Peter, Then, if you say Dan owes you money for being on HUD, you owe me money for being on unemployment, limited or not. I offer you a solution, go back to the Navy. Fair is fair, right?
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Quit whining ABOUT HUD get off your butt and do whatever it takes to take care of yourself.
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Richard i will.I am.I'm done with what was that^.I'm not whining.I can't just take care of myself.I have kids.I will try and forget this ever happened till next week.Then I'll take action.I'm not a lawyer but i need legal advise.Cause we cant afford a lawyer.But HUD has one.I read through laws till i was crosseyed and it all blended together .I'm waiting to find out what they said i did.I dont think by law they have to tell me.We need a court date a court.One with an unbiased party like the law says.Unlike last year.I have tried to answer all comments.This here was the most hits of any thing i've seen on here.Am i wrong?I can't just give up.Im too stubborn.Daniel went skating Jimmy went to the Robert Morris school to his first dance.He wears his Astros hat everywhere.I want to forget this for the weekend.Thanks John.This has been an interesting journey.I will learn from every mistake.I wish someday to help people like me.Now that would be a great job.I know there are good people who do not judge us.Like a lot on here.The caravan, church.I need to keep doing art.Man this has been traumatizing.I wanted to do a parade video and never did last week of the parish parade.I have the film images.I don't think true artists only do it for money.Its a passion.A need to express themselves.Too bad most artists are dead before they get recognition.Like Andy Warhol.I want to do what Ansel Adams did someday.I found a book at the salvation army by Annie Leibovitz its great.It even has images of John Lennon the last image ever taken of him 10 minutes before he was shot.Arnold Schwarzinagger.Pumped up.The original blues brothers.What a book for 2$I have paintings i've collected.I have another thing i found a print by Sam Francis it says on the back for Mr Allbrights collection.I have 2 Joeseph Deni paintings.He is a local artist and we got to meet him at go art once.I love his work.I said hey that looks like our paintings we have.It was.I was so glad to meet him.But im not all that sociable.Its hard for me.And he posed by his paintings.Its amazing what they can do with paint.I have an Aaron Zook painting.A man was gonna drive from pa an give me 100$I said no thanks.I like the painting.Another time we got to meet Senator Mary Lou Rath.She had helped our community so much.Thanks Mary Lou.I wish she was still here.Alot of good suggestions on here.I need to learn the laws, and use them, if we are to getjustice right?Well have a good weekend...dan
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Andy Warhol was famous long before he died. Ansel Adams is one of my personal favorite photographers. I have a signed original of his hanging in my office.
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Andrew.One day i saw a PBS special on Andy Warhol.The soup cans were unwanted.And the sold for 100$No they're worth millions.
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Peter i really do not think ,you are who ya say you are.
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49 comments.I can't sleep.My boys lives are in jeopardy here.Never was this on the front page.I even called Congressman Lees office. and wrote to him.No reply.I sent our termination to legal aid no reply.We do have a case.We deserve what the constitution says.Proper representation.Your money pays for HUDS lawyer right?The law says you have a right to complain without being punished right?Last year we had an informal hearing it was not legal.Because the hearing is supposed to be impartial.It was not.Because Mary Rice and Becky HOAK were there.We did everything by HUD rules.Or we'd be shut off.To be shut off merely for making a video is wrong.And people who say it's ok cause we are poor shut up are wrong.You don't get it do you?Landlords get tax breaks.They buy up homes like crazy on your money.Tax dollars.If the poor are treated badly by your HUD workers you pay for it then, you, should find out, what is up here?The facts before you judge, for the ones who say we should shut up were poor and disabled.Find facts of what HUD really is.And see if it's what it's supposed to be.Your money is being wasted.Why should HUD landlords get more than others?They already get a tax break.And first dibs on homes right?You must keep the poor people shut up right?Because you wouldn't want to have people find out the truth would you?HUD buys homes for landlords.Select ones.And it's not just here in Batavia ny. Last year at a HUD hearing i was told to sign an unconscionable lease see ya right here.Then told ill be shut off HUD by Mary rice if i don't sign it.I did not.Then with out an appeal i was told sign the paper that says we pay 130$ MORE FOR A ROOM.I was forced to sign it.Or my boys would be homeless.Then Becky hoak says i threatened her at the end of the meeting out of the blue.I had a support person with me.They saw it all.So excuuuuuse me for making a video to protect myself and boys.She said i threatened her and came to my apartment ,on june 8th.June 9th we were denied a hearing because of the video.June 9th they filed our termination and said"" i threatened them.Or we'd be shut off.If the HUD really wants you out then they can find something wrong that they overlooked.Then the landlord doesn't fix it.Then you are made to leave your 7 year apartment.You were a good tenant.Till you complain about paying others heat.Then they move in the next HUD family.And i don't think they even fixed what i have from the city plumbing inspector.They are cold and calculating if you complain.Now you are paying for their lawyer so we can be screwed out of our next apartment.How is that for short and sweet with much information?Prove me wrong. But don't just think i will shut up cause im poor.This is about children and their dad.The only real family they have.Injustice.And get justice.
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I did a lot of research on this.One think i noticed.We are not entitled to have an attorney appointed for us.How can that be law?People who murder someone have a right to counsel.We don't.Information is being with held from us.Like what they "say" happened.If you were arrested they must give details.Sec 8 does not.They don't even give a brief description of what happened.By law.It only says we are terminated cause someone was threatened,or otherwise abused.Isn't that a freedom of information violation?It would make us not prepared for our hearing.I asked for an expedited hearing.We were refused a hearing June 9th about rent increase.Because i made a video.My advocate from independent living, told me that someone at HUD said that on June 9th.June 9th is the date on our termination.She said they have lawyers working to see what they can do to us for the video.We can not sit and wait until it is too late and we're living in a motel to have hearing.And if we do get a hearing are they really unbiased?Or are they from here in Batavia?Maybe some people think this is a joke.So what if poor people are homeless.No big deal here.No other poor HUD recipients complain.Which by law you can.But they are truly afraid.And we are not the only ones are we?So we will do what great people from our past have done.We have suffered enough here.We only want fairness and what is right.We by not having a lawyer to represent us are being discriminated against.For being poor.For being disabled.For having children cause i had a one bedroom and no problems with HUD.I feel we are victims here.We are human beings too.We have feelings.We can't afford to move every HUD inspection when they come down on us for what?Asking why rent went up?How dare us?Fair market value is lower.This is why we need an attorney.Or legal advice pro bono.We can not afford one.So it's fathers day.And me i am doing all i can for my boys.To make known what our government is doing to us.Its not whining.Its taking action.I wish the HUD would video during inspections.I have no problem with it.I will have to be our attorney.I will learn how to file papers.I want to be telling our story ,to the news on TV. Daniel Cherry and Boys
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We still did not get a notice of our expedited hearing or any reason why.But we did file to get back our security, and damages ,from last year.See ya right here.We did not have their address.Nobody does.
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So send a certified letter to his place of business in Oakfield. How hard is that to figure out? As far as not having an attorney appointed for you, this isn't a criminal proceeding so that "right" doesn't apply.
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I will if I lose my job and can't afford to continue in college and get my degree and keep my house. Figure out your portion for the $300 and come to my house. Show me the figures and I will pay you.
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Andrew i know, we don't have a right to an attorney.But we should have proper representation under the constitution.HUD have lawyers free of charge. The papers will be served at the car dealer if need be.They have to serve papers. I do not think we are the only ones having these problems.I need to start a group to help people with these problems.There are many.Some do work and get help from HUD. What would be a good name?Something like Tenants for justice?It must have meaning. I feel my boys and i are being made an example of.An example of what happens when you complain about HUD.Its not only them.Its the cities looking the other way.I heard something about mowing lawns ordinance.There are already codes and ordinances.The problem is they've been over looked so long.And the problems don't get fixed.People get terminated and evicted.Made to move costing money to poor people.So we had to move last year. Some say i'm whining.O there are worse places.Their right there are.Taking action is not whining.People get angry when you take action ,to defend your family.HUD should have it so people get a 1 year lease period.Not month by month after a whole years rent is paid.When your a good tenant.Then you complain about a rent increase to HUD.You don't even get a hearing.You get people at your house who "say" you threatened em last year.Don't we have a right to peaceful enjoyment of our apartment? I bet they would like to punish us,, really bad ,,if we start a tenants rights group.A civil action for all the wrongs not just ours. And yes certain people in our city should help us with this.Its a matter of a basic need like food.A roof over the boys heads.Why should we be punished like j hale says?Its terrible to be treated unequal to others.And it is like Rosa Parks felt.She was a great woman and made a difference.We want the same rights as other tenants in this state and country.My boys will be punished for this.Because we asked why our rent went up?It was not legal.Its not legal to not give hearing.We did everything by HUD laws.I even have to give my soc sec #. More people need to come forward about things like this for them to be fixed.It's not just about the boys and me. People cant just keep looking the other way.Saying too bad for them they're no good they're poor.How can they sleep at night?I can't.The landlords who are rich off HUD money don't have to have leaky roofs, do they?Just one example.They can with HUDS help throw you out.No reason.So they have a mansion while we the poor fund them with our kids and HUDs cash.I will not accept what is going on here.So you keep lookin the other way and think bad things about us.But we are human beings here.So just think about it real hard.Change will come.Not today but soon...dan
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Peter, Just give back the whole $300 dollars of unemployment to the government and don't go down anymore and ask for more. Then you will be able to tell Dan he owes you money. Let Dan know when you do.
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Peter i have no idea what your saying.I know get a HUD tenant you'll be rich and then if another HUD landlord lets you......Cause you have no chance in @#$%^, you can buy another home.You'll have equity.Pretty soon youll have a hundred homes.You never have to put any money back into them ever.Cause if someone your tenant complained theyd be out.And a new one in.Of course your propert would be not worth much.But that won't matter cause you can tear it down.Cause you made a million.Peter.On one home get it?
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Dan, if you don't know what I am saying then read previous posts and don't go spouting BS John When I get back the money that the state has taken from me and given to others then I will stop taking.

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