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Walmart greeter, age 70, seriously injured after allegedly being punched by 26-year-old woman

By Howard B. Owens

CORRECTION: The employee allegedly assaulted was a cashier, not a greeter.

A 70-year-old greeter at Walmart suffered fractures on the left side of her face Christmas Eve after a 26-year-old woman allegedly punched her after being asked for her receipt for items in her shopping bag.

The young woman reportedly ran from the store and, according to witnesses and several customers, chased her and surrounded her car, preventing her from leaving until police arrived.

"One of the biggest things to note is that the community actually stood up and did not let this person get away with what she did," said one witness, who asked to remain anonymous. "Even on this busy shopping day, dozens of people stayed behind and made police reports."

Charged with two counts of assault in the second degree -- one for alleged attempt to cause serious injury and another for allegedly injuring a person 65 or older -- is Jacquetta Simmons of 106 Ellsworth Ave., Batavia.

Simmons was arraigned in Town of Batavia Court by Justice Michael Cleveland and committed to Genesee County Jail on $20,000 bail or $40,000 bond. She's scheduled to reappear in court Jan. 23.

The injured woman was taken to UMMC with a swollen face and multiple facial fractures.

Witnesses say the woman is a longtime employee of Walmart and loved by many.

The employee was reportedly working near the front doors of Walmart when Simmons tried to exit carrying a bag of merchandise. The victim asked Simmons for her receipt. It's unknown if there was any other conversation, but it was at this point that Simmons allegedly punched the victim, who was knocked to the floor.

Simmons then reportedly ran from the store, chased by other customers. 

Batavia police arrived on scene first, but Walmart is outside of the city, so State Police took over the investigation once on scene.

In comments on The Batavian's post yesterday, Michelle Wheatley, a witness, said, that as she was leaving she saw the suspect "standing by the police car in handcuffs with a big smile on her face."

UPDATE: Simmons posted $40,000 bond and was released from jail pending her next court appearance.

Bob Price

Where's the mug shot of this suspect? I wonder if she's smiling in it also..... now this older lady has to suffer pain for the next few months because of this jerk. Someone mentioned the greeter's name in the other story here,just wish I could remember which lady it is.

Dec 26, 2011, 10:39am Permalink
Bob Price

Hmmm-the 26yr. old assailant has already posted $40,000 bail......wonder where that money came from???? Nice-she's w/ her family for Christmas while the hard working senior is in the hospital......

Dec 25, 2011, 11:35am Permalink
Brenda Ranney

I'm so proud of my fellow Batavians, and soo disheartened that the person who did this is horrible act is also a Batavian. I suppose it is easier to think that someone who doesn't have ties in our community would do this.
If any good can come out if this hopefully it will be that we as a community, continue to be proactive and our reputation as such will spread both near and far.

Howard, any press release from Walmart's corporate office yet ?

Dec 25, 2011, 11:58am Permalink
Barbara Cavalieri

I can't imagine ANYTHING that would make someone punch this darling woman!! I pray that she will be sent somewhere where they can work on rehabilitating her.

Dec 25, 2011, 12:38pm Permalink
Amy Weidner

How does anyone muster up the strength to harm a 70 year old woman? I bet she feels big and bad. I hope she gets what's coming to her on January 23rd...

Dec 25, 2011, 12:40pm Permalink
Lori Silvernail

If the money came from a bondsman, I understand they have a business to run... but this isn't a crime of one idiot against another idiot. I wish they'd have refused to offer it since the crime was against a harmless and helpless senior citizen.

If IT could do it in the first place, this ugly ANIMAL will never have remorse. I hope whichever judge she appears before will throw the book at her, preferably right in her stupid face

Dec 25, 2011, 1:02pm Permalink
Howard B. Owens

This is definately the most talked about story in Genesee County right now. It's what everybody was talking about when we went out yesterday evening and I've gotten a good number of emails and phone calls on it.

While there is no sympathy from any quarter for Ms. Simmons, and the victim is widely loved and admired in the community, I need to remind everybody that we have a no-naming calling rule, no personal attack rule. No matter how reprehensible a suspect's alleged conduct, the person is still a suspect until found guilty.

Please keep comments civil and within our guidelines.

Dec 25, 2011, 1:57pm Permalink
Jeff Allen

Even though none of the accounts state that she actually was stealing anything, one would have to assume that you don't punch a greeter and flee the scene just because you are offended by being asked for your receipt. How is it the someone feels compelled to steal items from a discount store when in a matter of hours she or someone who must care about her can put up that kind of bail on her behalf? If she was in need of money, there was apparently a source available to her that didn't require theft and punching a 70 year old woman trying to do her job.

Dec 25, 2011, 2:29pm Permalink
Alexandra Mruczek

The elderly woman involved is my friend's grandmother. She is such a sweet lady, and I can't imagine her ever doing anything to deserve this. I hope Jacquetta gets what she deserves. She sent a poor, sweet lady to the ER for hours on end yesterday.

Dec 25, 2011, 3:01pm Permalink
Irene Will

I think ANOTHER part of the problem here is that Walmart's GREETERS ( as in greet people when they come into the store ) are being used as SECURITY GUARDS ( as in check for shoplifting on the way OUT of the store ) !!!!! They're using LITTLE OLD LADIES as SECURITY against shoplifting ???? Disgraceful.

Dec 25, 2011, 3:14pm Permalink
Howard B. Owens

Subsequent to the original post I learned she had paid for everything in her bag. She had no stolen items on her person, or so I am told.

Dec 25, 2011, 3:23pm Permalink
Bob Price

Maybe something the suspect purchased set off the alarm when she was walking out of store-one of the items she purchased might not have been deactivated.That does get annoying,but nothing that would warrant striking a person so hard to fracture facial bones.

Dec 25, 2011, 4:28pm Permalink
chuck Ward

lol Brenda Gill, i was actually surprised that this wasn't the work of Batavia's most famous menace. As for shopping at Target; if its good enough for dave Matthew's its good enough for me.

Dec 25, 2011, 6:44pm Permalink
Kyle Couchman

Sorry Marc.....again lets deal with reality here, the only people who know exactly what happened is the victim and the assailent. But facts are 1) After hitting the 70+ year old woman hard enough to cause facial fractures, she fled, seems to me if she had "a hand put on her" then she would have stayed and defended her actions. 2) After hitting this woman one of the contributing factors to her flight was most likely the fact that there were dozens of witnesses, something that wouldn't allow her to twist the truth to her benefit. 3) Something happened between the two that obviously riled enough people witnessing the altercation to follow her out to the parking lot and actively block her vehicle from leaving until the police arrived. Not a very common occurance and blocking a vehicle is pretty dangerous to those trying to prevent it from leaving, 4)adding to this the fact that after she was arrested, dozens of witnesses were willing to spend time giving authorities their statements, on Christmas eve nonetheless when almost all of them probably had purchases to get home and wrap or further shopping to do. Even under normal circumstances, people dont usually stick around for that even if they helped apprehend, human nature usually leads people to say police have it under control now I can get back to what I need to do.

So it''s nice Marc that you want to put all these what ifs and maybes into the incident, but it is what it is. Also before you start making assumptions about how our comments are helping Jaquetta, Mr. Price like you and I live in the US where freedom of speech and expression is a right guaranteed by the Constitution and since slander is defined as "defamation by oral utterance rather than by writing, pictures, etc. Since this is a written media, slander is not possible. And the wording of Mr. Prices statement was if I am not mistaken a comment on what he felt would be an appropriate punitive measure for her actions, not a statement about her character or a defamation. Your right though.....ignorance on here really doesnt make things any better at all. But venting to like minded people or arguing with someone who wants to defend ignorant actions with suppositions and whimsical what if scenarios does make most feel better. I wish the weather had been a little more seasonal, maybe Jacquetta would have fallen on an odd patch of ice (several times) and been in the hospital handcuffed to a bed rather than processed and released on bail but hey theres still time before she goes to court. They say karma is a female dog, you dont get to mess with God's little angels here on this earth without consequence.

Dec 25, 2011, 9:58pm Permalink
Jeffrey Houseknecht

I have been asked on more than one occasion to see my receipt on the way out the door by the greeter,on all of these occasions 1.The greeter did not put a hand on me 2. I did not punch the greeter in the face

Dec 25, 2011, 11:53pm Permalink
Doug Yeomans

How did this turn into a racial debate? Bob Price, why did you make the statement about a welfare check? A young woman punched a 70 year old woman in the face and was then chased into the parking lot by other store patrons, period. We really don't know many other details so how did you jump to the welfare conclusion?

When the door greeter asks to see your receipt, they are just doing what they've been instructed to do. It's part of their job and they're never pushy about it. They've asked to see my receipt when my hands are full and I've politely declined by saying: "No thanks, I'm not putting everything down, have a nice night/day." They have never chased me or sent out a loss prevention employee to confront me so I don't understand why Jacquetta found the need to punch a woman in the face, especially one who posed zero threat.

I'm pretty sure with all the statements given, the severity of the injuries and assuredly the attack being unprovoked, Jacquetta will be given real prison time.

Dec 26, 2011, 8:56am Permalink
Doug Yeomans

About the $40,000 bond, people seem to be confused about how a bond works:

When a bail bondsman, working with a bail bonding agency, puts up a fee for the release of a suspect on bail, the bondsman charges a fee of usually about 10% of the amount of money that is required to pay the bail. This initial fee is not refundable, even if the case is thrown out after the suspect posts bail.

The bail bondsman will take out a security against a defendant’s assets in order to cover the cost of the bail. If the defendant does not have enough assets, then the bondsman might take out securities against individuals that are willing to assist, such as relatives and friends. When a security is taken out, a bondsman often requires that 10% cash payment in addition to the mortgage on a person’s home that would equal the full amount of the bail bond money owed.

In the event that a defendant does not arrive in court on trial day, the bondsman can not only hire a bounty hunter to track the defendant down, but the bondsman then has a right to sue the defendant for money that was given to the court for the defendant’s bail bond. The bail bond agency may also recover any unpaid money by claiming assets that were owned by the defendant or those individuals that signed a contract to financial assist the defendant.

That means if you're busted and someone offers equity in their home as security collateral for the bond, if you skip bail, that person could lose their home when the bondsman comes to collect the money they're out.

Dec 26, 2011, 9:07am Permalink
Scott Birkby

Doug, I don't think most people are racist. I think that people just react to what they observe. And in case you didn't notice, it's not usually a Swede or an Oriental that does these kinds of things. Just reporting what I observe.

Dec 26, 2011, 9:49am Permalink
Doug Yeomans

Scott, here's what I've observed in my lifetime. Recently, the people who have been busted for shoplifting at Walmart and Kmart have predominantly been white, not black. The assaults and domestic incidents I've read about in the paper have mostly been committed by white people.

I used to own a house on Mohawk St in Rochester and the neighborhood was predominantly black. I lived there for 13 years and when my house was broken into, it wasn't black people that did it. The people who broke in were Puerto Rican ages 12, 14 and 17. Their 35 year old uncle was waiting in a car on the next street over with the trunk open. Rochester's largest crime problem right now is black on black crime, not black on white crime. I actually never had problems with any of my black neighbors. My biggest concern was getting caught in the nightly gunplay crossfire I could hear right outside my window. My point is that your skewed perception is not fact based.

When I tired of city life and decided I needed a change of scenery, I moved to Genesee county and within a few years my 4-wheeler was stolen right from my driveway, trailer and all. As far as I know it has never been found but I can almost guarantee with certainty that it was white people that stole it. The police told me that what happens is, stolen 4-wheelers often end up in hunting camps in southern counties where they're used for dragging deer, or whatever. Have you ever heard the term "redneck?" Well, I'm more concerned with my thieving, white, redneck neighbors than I am with my black neighbors. Just sayin!

I've been around..I grew up in Tyre, NY (Seneca Falls). It's farm country, whitey-ville. I grew up podunk. I then moved to Rochester for the culture shock of my life and lived there from February of 82 to July of 2003. For the last 29 years I've worked in and around the Rochester area. Since July of 2003 I've lived in East Bethany. The point I'm trying to make is that I think I have a clue, based on experience that I have actually lived through. I read people very well.

Dec 26, 2011, 10:51am Permalink
Bob Price

Too bad people don't like "comments"- smug suspects like these -deserve what they get-eyewitness account "alleges" she was SMILING when she was being arrested....maybe we should start writing "allegedly" before everything we write-free speech people -Marc-you play "race" card ,I'll use "free speech" card-

Dec 26, 2011, 10:38am Permalink
Sally Waldron

This is no defense to the welfare check statement, but the comment could have been in reference to anyone that shops at Walmart, since their stereotype is that they have the lowest prices so only the poor shop there, which in itself can be offensive, since I shop there once and awhile and have never collected any form of welfare in my life.

I don't understand why the greeter would have touched the defendant, I have never in my times going there have ever seen them even go towards a shopper unless it was to help them if they dropped something or to check their receipts if they are returning something.

Dec 26, 2011, 11:10am Permalink
Scott Birkby

Doug, your four wheeler was stolen and you just make the assumption that it had to be white folks who took it? I once lived in the inner city. My vehicle was broken into. The only thing taken was a pair of fancy shoes that I owned. I didn't see who took them. What assumption should I then make as to the race of the thief? Can an assumption me made upon indirect observations? And what would be the relative chance of such an observation being correct? Ten percent? Ninety percent?

Dec 26, 2011, 11:12am Permalink
Doug Yeomans

Scott, I was making a point, you missed it. I'm a betting man and I would put money on a bet that it was white people that stole my 4 wheeler. I guess we'll never know until it's found, if it's ever found.

When you live in an area where the majority of the population is white, the people committing the crimes are probably white! It's easy for people to say something such as "See! Those damn black people are all criminals!" when one of them is arrested in a predominantly white area.

Dec 26, 2011, 11:22am Permalink
Kyle Couchman

Nice examples there Marc but let me enlighten you a bit, first of all I'm a realist which means I believe in seeing things as they really are (my definition) a realtor is a person who buys and sells real estate which I really dont do and doesnt fit the context you are using it in. If you look at reports color is used where it is appropriate, your examples are useless in these circumstance as the are reports of crimes and criminals that have been apprehended ie shoplifting crimes. In this case Howard was making a report from a scanner call in which officials use a persons color and sex to indicate to the officers whom they are looking for in case the unsub (I love using that phrase) flees the scene as they approach. Then a witness came in and corrected Howard's error by telling him it was a black woman not a black man. You objected to her use of the term black. I object to your requiring us to be politically correct and racially sensitive.

Most people know we have thuggish idiots in all colors, I am just realizing that you havent taken offense to Doug's comment that his 4 wheeler was stolen by white people, thats is as bad as saying the walmart greeter was punched by a black woman. Whats the main difference here? I havent seen you object to the other news story about a black man stabbing another person on liberty st. You see what I'm getting at? Selectively targeting Michelle's comment smacks of assumption and waving the racial bias argument just to defend a really heinious and ill timed assault.

Other than white supremacists and ghetto fabulous ogs from the hood that carry a chip on their shoulder most people just arent that prejudiced.... In this case I have found that it very common in any conflict between a white man and a black man the first thing a black man does is complain about racism especially if he is legitimately in the wrong.

I read a comment made by Pat Buchanan (with who's politics I disagree with mostly) in response to Obama wanting to have a discussion about race relations.... It seems appropriate here in this conversation. Now before I post it I want to say that part of the comment on welfare doesnt agree with me and grates on my conscience as I feel it is a sterotyped generalization but here it goes....



By Patrick

J. Buchanan

Barack says we need to have

a conversation about race in America .. Fair enough. But

this time, it has to be a two-way conversation.. White America

needs to be heard from, not just lectured to.... This

time, the Silent Majority needs to have its convictions,

grievances and demands heard. And among them are these:


America has been the best country on earth for black folks. It

was here that 600,000 black people, brought from Africa

in slave ships, grew into a community of 40 million, were

introduced to Christian salvation, and reached the

greatest levels of freedom and prosperity blacks have ever

known.. Wright ought to go down on his knees and thank God he

is an American.

Second, no people

anywhere has done more to lift up blacks than white

Americans. Untold trillions have been spent since the '

60s on welfare, food stamps, rent supplements, Section 8

housing, Pell grants, student loans, legal services,

Medicaid, Earned Income Tax Credits and poverty programs

designed to bring the African-American community into the

mainstream. Governments,

businesses and colleges have engaged in discrimination against

white folks -- with affirmative action, contract set-asides

and quotas -- to advance black applicants over white

applicants. Churches, foundations, civic groups,

schools and individuals all over America have donated their

time and money to support soup kitchens, adult education, day

care, retirement and nursing homes for blacks.
We hear the grievances.Where is the


Barack talks about new 'ladders

of opportunity' for blacks. Let him go to Altoona ? And

Johnstown, and ask the white kids in Catholic schools how many

were visited lately by Ivy League recruiters handing out

scholarships for 'deserving' white kids...? Is white America really responsible

for the fact that the crime and incarceration rates for

African-Americans are seven times those of white


Is it really white America's fault that illegitimacy in the

African-American community has hit 70 percent and the black

dropout rate from high schools in some cities has reached 50


Is that the fault of white America

or, first and foremost, a failure of the black community


As for racism, its ugliest manifestation is in

interracial crime, and especially interracial crimes of

violence. Is Barack Obama

aware that while white criminals choose black victims 3

percent of the time, black criminals choose white victims 45

percent of the time?

Is Barack aware that

black-on-white rapes are 100 times more common than the

reverse, that black-on-white robberies were 139 times as

common in the first three years of this decade as the


We have all heard ad nauseam from

the Rev. Al about Tawana Brawley, the Duke rape case and

Jena . And all turned out to be hoaxes. But about the epidemic

of black assaults on whites that are real, we hear


Sorry, Barack, some of us have heard it

all before, about 40 years and 40 trillion tax dollars ago.

This needs to be passed around because, this is a

message everyone needs to hear!!!

OK...........will you pass it on ?

YES. I did but will


Because I'm for a better



Not racist,
Not violent,
Just not silent


There is a kernel of truth in this statement don't you think so? With all respect for Doug, I can understand his position as I have also had a wide range of exp in places I have lived I went from Brockport to Rochester (a few doors down from franklin high) to the navy. When I came back I lived in Syracuse's South Side right off Salina St. Then moved to Ithaca then to here. I consider myself pretty open minded but very outspoken when I see people take a valid issue like racism and manipulate it to their own ends. Thats what I felt I saw in your tirade on Michelle.

And I give a nod to Doug on the having a clue comment. Seems like people like us kinda have a learned insight on reading people. I'm sure you hear from your friends as I do how uncannily people like us peg people's true character even through the roles they play and masks they wear (figuratively speaking) in public.

Dec 26, 2011, 11:52am Permalink
Doug Yeomans

Kyle, sometimes people don't "get" points of irony or sarcasm. They're so literal in their perceptions, they can't perceive that ice is just frozen water :-)

Dec 26, 2011, 12:23pm Permalink
Howard B. Owens

Marc, I believe I said once a person is found (arrested or not), the description, including race, is no longer relevant. We don't use race at that point and every professional news outlet I know applies the same standards -- unless there is some compelling reason that makes race relevant.

Dec 26, 2011, 1:01pm Permalink
Frank Bartholomew

I had a friend who was black, and one day while discussing pedos, he made a remark that caught me a little off balance, he stated we should always be sure to let everyone know that someone is a pedo. He then stated, I wake up everyday and see that I am a black man. I should have questioned his meaning, but again, the remark caught me off gaurd.
I hope he wasn't saying he was ashamed, or uncomfortable with being black, or that he felt it was a disadvantage to be black. I wish I would have asked him for a better explaination.
Being a white male, I have no way of fully understanding what it would be like to be a black male. Is there really a huge difference, either real or perceived?, I don't know.

Dec 26, 2011, 1:51pm Permalink
Tony Ferrando

An "oriental"???? Seriously? What are they, rugs? A direction? Do you refer to yourself as Occidental then? Any other archaic terms and stereotypes you still use other than that? I think the use of that term highlights exactly the point Doug is trying to show you....

Dec 26, 2011, 2:36pm Permalink
Dave Olsen

Hahahaha This Marc Solis guy removed all his rants and comments.
If you write it, pal. Own it.
Don't restrict peoples right to be a chicken Howard, it's OK, just goes to credibility.
One of my favorite teachers from high school, Mr Keith Cromwell used to say "Engage brain before operating mouth, Mr. Olsen" Update to "posting comment" as well

Dec 26, 2011, 6:15pm Permalink
Howard B. Owens

What I would really like to do is have a time limit on editing -- 30 minutes to correct mistakes or have a change of heart. After that, live with it.

Dec 26, 2011, 6:29pm Permalink
Kyle Couchman

Well I was writing books on here just trying to make my point, I think he removed it because, well I'm not sure and doubt I should speculate. But his 2nd to last post he claimed to be a witness to the incident, which I had my doubts about as it seems like something that would have been mentioned here much earlier, and over on the other site where we discussed witnesses as well. But I think I made my points as did Doug and others. In my viewpoint I just felt thathis comments to Michelle's post were overboard and unbalanced.

Dec 26, 2011, 6:33pm Permalink
Jeff Allen

Howard, I would like the 30 minute rule. I edit my posts all the time but usually within the time it takes to read it after posting. Having a permanent archive of off the cuff remarks might make people consider words more carefully before hitting the save button.

Dec 26, 2011, 6:50pm Permalink
Kyle Couchman

My intuition was poked a bit as well when he called me a Realtor as well, because this meant he "researched" me on the internet, not that I care much but if he's up to mischief he'd better think twice, I dont like conflict but will defend myself, and I responed in kind by looking him up as well and have his close relatives, address, and phone number. I dont like being put on the defensive but his subtle way of posting that here did raise some red flags and after 16 years of dealing with College students @ cornell as their property manager I tend to try to stay ahead of shenannigans of that sort. Have had my Facebook and Myspace pages hijacked once from a similar circumstance.

LOL Howard dont remove the edit function, I usually post then have to edit because of typos or tapping my touchpad while typing, then my posts wouldn't look their best here. :)

Dec 26, 2011, 6:58pm Permalink
marc solis

First of all I deleted my comments not Rants Dave, because I realized I didnt need to make idiot comments like everyone else. Also deleting my comments doesnt make me scared of anything or anyone on here. These are all comments like one said freedom of speech. Yes Dave I wrote it and will own it why am I a chicken? This is a site this is not in person. Im sure a lot of comments would not be said in person but only hidden behind a screen. Yes Kyle we were there do you need to see my receipt. Howard do what you want with editing I live with what I say thats why I say it. I still stand by my comments and knew you all would think I deleted my post to run away, im not running. Im just done going back and forth who's right who's wrong, I know what I think about people on here and Im sure you feel the same. Im here when ever someone wants to speak to me in person, coffee anyone?? I'll buy. Words are different when theres no screen. I bet I will get atleast 6 more replies on this one.

Dec 26, 2011, 7:40pm Permalink
Kyle Couchman

Hmmm a cup of Joe and interesting conversation.... Ok why not name the time and place, I'll take you up on that I dont really talk any differently in person than I do behind a screen, with you looking up my internet trail you shoukld have seen the many "stands" I took with the Ithaca City Council and neighborhood council meeting on behalf of the landlords assc and so on. If you think it'll be any different in public well you might be in for a surprise. Maybe Doug will join us too as well as some others. I missed the last coffee get together we had from this forum so let me know.

Dec 26, 2011, 7:56pm Permalink
Howard B. Owens

Marc, we like to make an edit function available because we all make mistakes -- even saying things we later regret. Modifications and alternations have been tolerated to an extent.

However, going through and deleting all of your comments is abusing the privileged. You created a public record which you later altered, which is, frankly, unethical, especially since people had responded to you and engaged you in a conversation. It's patently unfair to those people. There's no rule against it. It's just wrong. And it is chicken and it is running away from your own statements. Deny it if you want, but that's what it is.

Dec 26, 2011, 8:03pm Permalink
Howard B. Owens

Kyle, what other site? The "other site" that most of the time people refer to as "the other site" because they think they can't mention that site on this site hasn't even covered this story. At all. Not that I can find.

Dec 26, 2011, 8:08pm Permalink
Kyle Couchman

Well it'll have to be afternoon though Marc I have a couple of medical appts tomorrow, after 11:30 or so I should be free. BTW I tried the 219 number but it seems to be out of service. Maybe Jessica has your number?

Dec 26, 2011, 8:10pm Permalink
Kyle Couchman

Sorry Howard I mis typed.....I mean the other article that you posted initally from the scanner report, not the follow up :) Sorry :)

Dec 26, 2011, 8:14pm Permalink
Kyle Couchman

Wow talk about enlightening, he must have really searched out my web trail, I just looked with the major web search providers and cant believe the number of hits I have. My scuba and realty days are way the heck down on the list, but I am in the movie internet database, both as being in a tv show and a listing for the actor who portrayed me in the re-enactment segments of that tv show LOL I should look him up and say hello... Hell my own mother thought he portrayed the nuances of my personality so well that she thought it was me til she put on her glasses. Thats without him ever meeting me or seeing me. I was always impressed with that :)

But its creepy that this guy must have gone through 10 pages of links til he found my links with Po Family Realty, that seems a little strange.

Dec 26, 2011, 8:25pm Permalink
Charlie Mallow

Howard, 30 minutes for grammar and spelling mistakes is long enough. After other people start replying, the changes ruin the whole conversation. If you say stupid racist things on the internet, you need own every word, forever!

Dec 26, 2011, 8:48pm Permalink
kevin kretschmer

Or.................he likely did what some seem inclined to do on this site, look someone mentioned here up on Facebook. How many Kyle Couchman's are there likely to be there that list "The Batavian" as an interest?

Apparently Ms. Simmons doesn't have a page herself or that would probably be held up for ridicule and judgement as well. How soon people forget; "How can you say to your brother, 'Brother, let me take the speck out of your eye,' when you yourself fail to see the plank in your own eye?"

Dec 26, 2011, 8:55pm Permalink
Kyle Couchman

LOL Charlie I usually take ownership of every stupid word I have typed..... Unless Howard removed them for being inappropriate that is. I love to be wrong sometimes and get a kick out of reading myself after a few years have gone by :)

Dec 26, 2011, 8:55pm Permalink
Bob Price

My sister talked to a worker at Wal-Mart today to see who it was(she doesn't have internet)-she did find out who it was,and that her daughter is taking care of her now. I guess I'll vent and stew to myself from now on.......maybe Howard will go the route of local TV sites and no longer allow comments-that way nobodies feelies get hurt......doesn't matter-I still check this site many times a day as it has the best up to the second coverage of local news available.

Dec 26, 2011, 9:05pm Permalink
marc solis

Ok Kyle whos bad mouthing who now, I was on facebook and I did type your name in and a couple matched and I just threw out the Realtor thing at you and I guess it was a hit. So all this stupid ass creepy guy stuff is unnecessary, you must have another secret admirer. Yes thats my old number and Jessica I do know, you must like I love all the calls im getting about this. Tims at 11:45 sounds good and why bring more? Charlie it doesnt matter if someone says a racist comment and it has to stay on here people dont beleive they said anything wrong. Thats why Im being attacked now for speeking my mind on peoples ignorant comments. As for Howard you should take control before stuff escalates.

Dec 26, 2011, 9:19pm Permalink
marc solis

Wow I have to agree with Bob on his last comment. Like I said from the begining I feel bad for Grace but sometimes having a open forum or whatever you want to call this, things do get out of hand.

Dec 26, 2011, 9:22pm Permalink
Debra Nanni

Agree with what you said 100% Doug. I could not have said it better. Often times I think people are just mimicking the popular opinion rather than following the actual facts about things that happen. Checking the facts, they would find more crimes are committed by whites in Genesee County than by blacks. But it's so much easier just to follow the opinion of others when commenting. You brought up alot of good points, ...

Dec 26, 2011, 11:26pm Permalink
Kyle Couchman

Well Marc conveniently all your posts are deleted so the fact that you said you found me on some realty website cant really be argued and you can say whatever you want now without having to listen to people correct you on contradicting your previous posts. Say whatever you like im sure ill be drinking alone tomorrow unless Howard or Doug show up to see if you show :)

Dec 27, 2011, 12:13am Permalink
Frank Bartholomew

Read comment 11, Howard spelled out the rules, and from what I've read, I don't see where those rules have been broken, maybe 1 exception.
This story isn't about race, it's about a thug who punched an elderly woman in the face on Christmas eve because she was doing her job.

Dec 27, 2011, 5:25am Permalink
Kyle Couchman

lol Bob I guess Marc again took a little sarcasm as a valid suggestion. In my viewpoint and what I've seen from Howard, the current forum format (with the exception of editing) seems to work for him and his consumers. I dont think Howard would bow to the pressure of a few vocal members to edit the content or format unless it violates the rules already in place. Pretty loose rules if you ask me as I only recall Mr. Spencer being asked to lay off a couple of naughty words in the last year.

As for you Marc I havent bad mouthed you yet, not directly, you need to learn to discern and understand what you read. Your right there are 2 of me on Facebook one is the aforementioned hijacked profile done by a smartass cornell student, who caught himself a cyberharrasment charge for doing what he did. Unfortunately Facebook isnt as easily dealt with as far as removing the profile it will someday be removed but I needed an active facebook page for my organizational needs at that time. As for your opinion on racist comments on here, where would those be, I havent seen one with the exception of you and me discussing racial profiling in the workplace either here or on the other article on this site (I got it right this time Howard LOL )

Dec 27, 2011, 5:42am Permalink
Bob Price

Hey-I saw the article on and last night......for such a small town,we sure do go nationwide an awful lot.....too bad Leno is reruns this week,or else he would probably mention it. Howard-is there any way to set up an online get-well card for Grace?

Dec 27, 2011, 8:25am Permalink
John Woodworth JR

Doug the assumption it had to be a white individual that stoled your ATV is just that an Assumption. Could of been a hispanic individual as well as white or black. That officer was giving his opinion rather than fact for your situation.

Dec 27, 2011, 9:08am Permalink
Scott Birkby

Apparently Batavia is not the only place to have disturbances at shopping centers. Yesterday, hundreds of youths rampaged through the Mall of America after hearing rumors that rappers Lil' Wayne and Drake would be visiting.

Dec 27, 2011, 10:47am Permalink
Doug Yeomans

John, you're correct. It "could've" been anyone that "stole" it. Actually, the officer was giving factual information about what happens to a lot of stolen 4-wheelers from the area. I live on East Rd and it's one of the main north/south corridors between Batavia and areas south of here. Someone backed into the driveway, hooked up to the trailer and drove away with the whole kit and kaboodle.

I clearly said I'm a betting man and would place money on a bet that it was a white person that "stole" it.

Dec 27, 2011, 11:20am Permalink
John Woodworth JR

One last comment for Ms Simmons. Do you feel like a tough guy because, you broke an old woman's face? That is mighty impressive(Drenching in Sarcasm). In my eyes you are a true _ _ _ _ _ _! Meaning you are a disgrace to your race! I was always taught there is two sides to every race; the ones willing to co-exist with others and the one's not! Ms. Simmons you are NOT!

Dec 27, 2011, 2:08pm Permalink
Kyle Couchman

Amen to that John..... It's really an inhuman thing to punch a sweet senior in the face like it's UFC. I hope the next time she feels a little punchy she punches somone who ends up breaking her face. This would be the one time I would make an exception to the never hit a woman rule. Wanna live like a thug then you'll be treated like a thug.

Dec 27, 2011, 2:18pm Permalink
marc solis

Has everyone read the new update interesting isnt it? And to let everyone on here know I did show up for coffee. I thought you would comment on that Kyle guess not.

Dec 27, 2011, 6:33pm Permalink
marc solis

John who are you? You saw the time I posted. Kyle and I had our talk, do you agree Kyle? Atleast the sorry I got was in person and not written. John you had nothing to say this whole time and now you want to meet for coffee? I have better things to do with my time than meeting you. I understand a few of us had comments on here but nothing was said by you. End of story.

Dec 27, 2011, 6:51pm Permalink
John Woodworth JR

"This would be the one time I would make an exception to the never hit a woman rule. Wanna live like a thug then you'll be treated like a thug."

Great comment Kyle, you are right Ms. Simmons shouldn't fall under "Never hit a woman rule." She is by no means a lady.

Dec 28, 2011, 8:11am Permalink
Kyle Couchman

LOL John.... Marc

I think John just wants to meet some batavian posters for coffee and discussion. I have the time even tho money's tight. I actually mistook his post to meet at coffee culture on Tues for yours hence my post saying that I couldnt make it til afternoon. I made the effort to meet there with you at your time (even though we both know I was 10 min late on arrival) So please dont be so hard on John

John other than medical appts I still can show up if I pegged your intentions correctly So let me know specifics :)

Dec 28, 2011, 9:13am Permalink

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