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February 4, 2019 - 9:47am

Today's Poll: Should the State of New York ban stretch limousines?

posted by Howard B. Owens in polls.
Rich Richmond
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I voted NO. I never rode in one. I have no use for them. I think they have become ridiculous in size. I'm content with my Chevy Silverado. That being said, I would never try and ban them for people to enjoy them because they don't affect me.

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I vote no because much like Socialism and unions, limousines aren't inherently evil. LOL. They do, like virtually any entity, present the possibility of evil people in the driver's seat. Evil people make perfectly good entities evil. Limos driven by decent, capable chauffeurs, and maintained by decent, capable owners save many, many lives by safely transporting partying citizens about. Much like guns, Limousines don't kill people, people kill people. And much like guns, Socialism, and unions, limousines present an opportunity to thwart evil. To the common good.

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I'm just wondering what brought up the poll question in the first place.

Does someone consider stretch limos to be too dangerous?
If so, why?
Their length? #schoolbusesarelonger
How many stretch limo accidents are there annually?

Where did the poll question originate? Is some senator/representative contemplating such s bill?

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Mr. Hartgrove, this accident is what has put stretch limos in the spotlight.
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/10/07/nyregion/wedding-limo-crash-schoharie...

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No and they should ban Democrats from running for office if they ever want to get this state squared away.

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David, that is so funny, however you may be on to something. How do you feel about women running for office? Republican women of course.

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Ed, yes, some in Albany want to ban them. Nanny State Albany Liberals again.

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Some people feel that riding in a limo gives their ego a boost because it makes them feel special. That or a group of them are going out on the town and don't want a DWI.

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Tom, many are rented for wedding parties and proms

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"Nanny State liberals." John Roach there are Nanny Staters on both sides of the aisle. The state of fear conjured up by self gorgeous george bush jr actually has a significant amount of culpability for the Scoharie Limo tragedy. The owner of the "limo company" has been in bed with our corrupted fbi for well over a decade. He was arrested prior to his rather illicit relationship with our corrupted fbi for some 80 (EIGHTY) felony, misdemeanor, and traffic offenses. He was to be deported but the fbi had other ideas. They used him in a number of setups. Schemes to convince the people that they were on the job and providing the security the terrorised populace so desperately needed to overcome the fear that was rampant (and still is) after all of the fbi's failures that resulted in the 911 tragedy.
Check here: https://www.wamc.org/post/2018-ends-questions-remain-about-schoharie-lim...
Check here: https://www.wamc.org/post/central-ave-imam-wrapped-2004-fbi-sting-nears-...

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The accident that prompted this sounded more like a driver issue as opposed to a limo issue.

Daniel Norstrand
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The vehicle was actually deemed unfit for the road. One of the problems with it was brakes.An out of service sticker applied by state inspectors was removed illegally. The owners son, who was managing the business has been charged with at least one count of negligent homicide. I read at one point that licence plates were switched. The state now confiscates plates of unfit limos, and confiscated all of the offending company's plates.

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The main thing is -- there is an element in politics that loves big government and believes any problem can be solved by government.

Generally, we call them progressives, but nationalists/populist fall into this rut, too.

Part of the problem is a basic misunderstanding of probability and statistics.

Anything that can possibly go wrong will eventually go wrong. That's how probability works. That doesn't mean there needs to be a government fix after a tragedy. Sometimes you accept the law of probability and move on. At least, that's how a wise and benevolent government would behave.

Yes, government governs best when it governs least, and part of that is not governing because some low-probability event occurred. The wise governor says, "yeah, that was horrible and tragic but we can't punish everybody else because the one in one million chance of it occurring finally occurred."

Unfortunately, our "do something culture" rewards the elected official who introduces legislation, not the elected official who recognizes the cure is often worse than the disease.

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Like "spreading democracy" when our own democracy has serious problems of its own to solve.

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