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June 18, 2015 - 4:42pm

County Legislature declines proposed contract with Deputy Sheriff's Association

The Genesee County Legislature objected to a salary increase in the proposed union contract with the Deputy Sheriff's Association at the Ways and Means Committee meeting Wednesday night.

The proposed contract called for a 7.5-percent salary increase over three years. County officials said the total cost of deputy salaries for three years would be more than $390,000. The contract would have covered 46 employees.

For the legislature to make a decision, Jay Gsell, county manager, provided information on deputy union contracts in adjoining counties and all of their salary increases were lower. According to county officials, the salary increases stated in deputy contracts in Orleans County and Livingston County were 2 percent for two years.

"I think based on the numbers involved and what it's going to cost the county I think it's excessive," Legislature Chair Raymond Cianfrini said. "If this contract came from any other union in the county, I would have had the same objection."

The legislature recently approved a management salary schedule for an average 1-percent increase for five years in an attempt to bring nonunion employees in line with what they pay union employees. According to Cianfrini, if the legislature approved the Deputy Sheriff's Association contract it would be unfair to other management employees.

Cianfrini hopes to resolve the contract issue with the Deputy Sheriff's Association as soon as possible.

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so this guy is comparing management employees with the deputy sheriff. when management starts dealing with the life and death situations that law enforcement has to deal with everyday, then we can talk "fairness" until then, give them a raise and make it ten percent.

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From the post: "County officials said the total cost of deputy salaries for three years would be more than $390,000. The contract would have covered 46 employees."

Are they using Common Core mathematics to come up with this statement? $390,000 divided by 3 (years) would equal $130,000 per/year. For 46 employees. Which would mean each employee is, on average, getting paid $2,826.08 per/year.
Who in their right mind would work for $2,826.08 a year? Somebody's math is messed up.

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Very benevolent of you David Spaulding. Why not a 20% raise? You are concerned about the deputies. Mr. Cianfrini is concerned about management. Meanwhile, I hear no concern for the people that pay the bills. Sometimes, I just shake my head and wonder.

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jim, I wonder too. If you are trying to imply I am some freeloader, you got another thing coming. I work, I raised a family with 4 children. I did not take a handout ever. I pay all my bills. Everything I own I worked for and I paid for it. I don't owe anybody squat. I pay my property and school taxes just like everyone else who gets sent a bill. I haven't asked anybody for anything except maybe advise. You carry on shaking your head but don't shake it at me.

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Hey Ed... I think you missed something. It's not a base salary, it's a salary increase. Going one step further in your calculating it's about a $54/week pay raise for each of them if they were all at the same pay scale. Hardly what I'd call an extravagant pay raise, but don't forget funds do need to be retained for new positions created for family members & friends.

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Hey, Ed. Nope, I missed nothing.
I fully realized the post SHOULD'VE said "increases' would equal about $390,000 over 3-year period.
Instead, it read, "County officials said the total cost of deputy salaries for three years would be more than $390,000".

Yes, I fully understand the money has to come 'from somewhere'.

And, you are correct in the $54/week amount (averaged out).

Personally, if I was 40-years younger, and looking for a job, I might, MIGHT, try for a deputy's position. But, they'd have to offer me NO LESS THAN $500,000/year. And, even then, I'd probably have a BM every time I pulled someone over - too many nutjobs out there.
No thanks!!!
As long as the LEO's are doing their jobs in a law-abiding manner, I have the utmost respect for them. When/if the blue lights start flashing, I'm pulling over. Always have, save for one time, back in '67 (no blue lights, back then, just red). There was a money-generating, ILLEGAL, 1-second yellow cycle traffic light at the corner of Covington/Main St., in Perry. Passed the crosswalk on Covington on green, saw the yellow light change to red before I was under the light, and saw the cop (on Main, waiting at the light) turn on his flashers in my rear-view mirror. Told my girlfriend, "Hang on! I'm not paying for that light AGAIN."
I was driving one of the two 'local' vehicles that the cops couldn't catch, and I left. Last time I saw the cop car was when I started up the hill on Borden Ave.
Was I justified? No, not really. Probably should've accepted the ticket, and fought it (the ILLEGAL, 1-second yellow cycle), but, I didn't. I was young, semi-stupid, and felt it was an unjust violation. At the speeds I reached that day, the 'semi-stupid' overcame my senses. Guess what. We DO get smarter with maturity.

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I would agree that 7.5%/3yrs increase is excessive in the current financial climate. However there are other considerations that aren't included in this report. For example; are the Sheriffs up to date with past years of service, or have they been without a new contract for a while? What is their other compensation [health ins, pension, etc], and is that changing [increasing/decreasing]?

I've long been of the understanding that the Genesee Co Sheriff LEOs were paid a considerable amount less than comparable jobs in the BPD and of course the NYSP. The irony here is that the County Sheriff is the only legit, Constitutional [elected] police agency of the 3. The other two are basically a government "standing army", which our founders strongly warned against allowing. But we don't care, do we?

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Starting Salaries comparison NYS Trooper v Suffolk County Police Officer

Suffolk County Police $59,000/year

NYS Trooper $50,347/year at Academy Appointment.
After graduating the Academy $66,905

After 5 Years of Service

Suffolk County Officer $108,608/year(non-command rank)

NYS Trooper $84,739(non-command rank or BCI)

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I forgot to add that the Suffolk County Officer after graduating the Academy gets bumped up to $88,000/year.

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Yep... you're really "on point" as usual!!!!!

Thanks?

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