Local Matters

Community Sponsors

May 30, 2009 - 8:46am

HUD injustice here in Batavia

posted by daniel cherry.

A womanfrom HUD,Pathstone inspected our apatment on may 15th 09.

The woman was walking around our apartment, looking for problems.She was counting bedrooms.She asked where is the third bedroom.When she finally found the bedroom/hallway.She said thats the third bedroom?I said that's exactly what i said when i was looking at it.But we were nearly homeless so i took it.She said its messy there are too many boxes, and the door is blocked.I said"If it will make you happy i will clean it up.(.All my pictures from my childrens whole lives are in there.And empty bandage boxes from the last year.If she'd bothered to look in the hallway/bedroom she'd have seen a matress).Immediately after that she goes to our bathroom.She says we put a hole in the door.She writes it down.I said no that hole was in there when we moved in!!I took pictures then.She the HUD /pathstone apartment inspector started asking me how much we pay.Why was she asking that?She asked how much do you pay?I told her 2/3 of the money is taken from my boys social services money without my consent.It's a new law.She said youd be surprised how many people don't know how much they pay(.I had gone to a HUD/Pathstone meeting on april 28th.They ask and you must prove your finances.)The Inspector said she will look and if she doesn't see anything about a hole in the door we put it there.I called and spoke to her.She said its not written down and yes you did put a hole in the door.I was very angry.I told her we fixed this place up.When we moved in the garage was full of junk.It took 2 giant dumpsters to get it out.My boys and i cleaned up this property!!There were wires hanging out of the kitchen outlet.The basement was full of junk.She said ok if you don't like it file for a hearing with her boss.(We did that last year and were made to pay extra money for the 3rd bedroom when we were kicked out at 119 state st illegally).We were denied appeal.HUD rented our old apartment.I lost my whole security there.Why? because they said we ruined the kitchen floor.Because the refigerator leaked.I'd be willing to bet that HUD and the city plumbing inspector overlooked what we were threwn out for last year.I will ask again at the city.Hud said o its too bad they never inspected it after we moved.It was better than before we moved in 119 state).Do i see a pattern here?I think so.May 21st 09.We get our letter from HUD Pathstone.It says they raised the amount the landlord gets by 30$ 880$They raised the amount we pay by 100$a month.We are on rent control housing supposedly.We live on 10,500 a year.That is a lot to us.

So i called HUD Pathstone again.I asked why are we being charged so much more.She said it's because we don't use the (alleged) third bedroom.It is a hallway.I said yes we do.The boys argue over who wants to sleep in the cell.I said i want a hearing.She said call Buffalo and gives me the number.The same number that i called last year and they don't care at all.I won't call it again.HUD Pathstone is to reinspect the apartment.Why didn't they wait until then?O i am really upset.This will affect my boys.I also asked her about the holes in the doors.She said o we're not saying you did it.Do ya think our land?lord will charge us for it when we get threwn out again with a little help form HUD?I do.Why should we pay for holes we did not make?

I called my land/lord.He the owner of 4 highlnd pk and 63 other properties says we are good tenants.He will work with us.He knows we cleaned up his property.We were not paid for it.He said he was on the phone all day with people complaining about HUD Pathstone problems and he's tired of it.

See if you complain to HUD Pathstone about problems you are risking being expelled from your residence.Like i was last year.There are laws to protect tenants.Like you can withhold rent until things are fixed.But if you are on HUD and withhold rent.They say you will be shut off HUD.Because you can not withhold rent under New York Landlord tenant laws.Real Property laws.There are laws that say HUD Pathstone land/lords can charge more too.
 

So in my opinion people on HUD ? Pathstone are being denied their rights.They are it is true.And where does all that money go to?(It's not going to the properties).HUD ? Pathstone they do not protect the tenants.They protect the landlords.People have to fear them.They can destroy your life in a heartbeat.And make it so you can not afford to buy your children ,clothes or eat.Me i will fight with every ounce of my being for our rights.And i will risk it all.I can not go through this every year!!Mabe if more people did what i am going to do it would be fixed.Because our HUD systym is broken.So if someone sees this write to HUD in washington.Not buffalo.Write senators and congressman.Write OBAMA.Tell them without fear what is going on here.And most likely across the nation.

HUD / Pathstone is causing me trauma.I have had more than my share of trauma caused by not only them but also the courts in this city.What is our population now?I thought it was 24,000 years ago.And dropping.Mabe this will touch prominent people the wrong way.So mabe i will have to post it somewhere else.But i will.I will copy and paste this till my fingers are raw!! Why don't people in Batave have the same rights as other cities?Guilty till proven innocent.The cost is enormous.But that is whole other story or is it?Prominent people have rights to do anything and it is ok.Liberty and justice for some.

 

                                                                Daniel Cherry and Boys

 

 

daniel cherry
daniel cherry's picture
Offline
Last seen: 2 years 5 months ago
Joined: May 6 2008 - 2:21pm
Please read this.I know its long.It needs fixing just like many other things here do.And it is very important.So read between the lines here.^^^
dan cherry
dan cherry's picture
Offline
Last seen: 9 years 2 days ago
Joined: May 3 2009 - 11:26am
read this it's a true thing
Mark Potwora
Mark Potwora's picture
Offline
Last seen: 5 months 2 weeks ago
Joined: May 14 2008 - 6:42pm
Is HUD a federal or state program..Seems like they got to many layers of BS you have to go through to get anything done..I don't understand if the Landlord claims your good tenants then why doesn't he back up your claim about the hole in the door...Why won't they send down a different inspector to see if the first one got it right..Keep up the fight....
daniel cherry
daniel cherry's picture
Offline
Last seen: 2 years 5 months ago
Joined: May 6 2008 - 2:21pm
HUD is a federal program.I do not know how Pathstone relates to Hud.My landlord doesn't care about the hole in the door.His wife is sick.They only have one inspector for HUD here.We are on rent controlled housing.They raised our rent alot.Because the HUD boss here "SAYS" the boys do not sleep in that room.The hallway.They do.I appreciate the comment.Most wouldn't care.I am not the only one with problems like this.I am the only one who will fight for our rights.You are supposed to fear losing HUD.I have to go work at the baseball hotdog stand now.Jimmy plays on the astros.
Lori Ann Santini
Lori Ann Santini's picture
Offline
Last seen: 8 years 8 months ago
Joined: Jan 3 2009 - 11:44am
Hi Daniel, I have read your numerous accounts about your problems with HUD. Not being fully aware of how the program works I have a few questions. If the rent cost is so high, do you have to rent a HUD approved apartment vs. a regular apartment? Do you get "more" aid if it is HUD approved? I know that when I was a landlord eons ago, Wyoming County would evaluate the apartment I had for rent. I set the price, not them. Does the $880 a month include all your utilities and water too? That cost is outrageous if it doesn't. Especially if it is only an apartment vs. the entire house. Why are they stating that you need to be charged more for the apartment because they don't think that you use the "third" bedroom? I am curious why your rent keeps going up. The market in Batavia is not that high demand that it should. Everytime I rented the apartment I went through it with the tenant. I made sure that we marked all the "damage" together. It was then signed by both of us. The tenant kept a copy and I kept one. This way we had matching records. I never had anyone question the matching statements. Only once did I have a tenant make a mess at time of departure that required repair. Digital cameras/Phone Cameras are also a helpful record. Especially phone cameras because they have a data imprint that can't be altered. It matches the time stamp on the phone itself. As a landlord, I always tried to keep the aprtment up to a standard that I would be proud to have lived in. Not to sound insulting because I don't mean to be at all but do you think they give you a harder time than most because you are so vocal? Clearly you speak your mind. Would there be any advocacy groups that would be able to help you out? I thought I recalled at one point that you were disabled, I may be wrong however. Would you be able to utilize the American With Disablities Organizations to seek assistance? Quite frankly, if you are paying the $880 a month for rent I would see if you qualify for Habitat For Humanity. Buy a house instead. It is yours after your sweat equity effort and getting financing. The money goes to pay the mortgage not to line a landlords pocket. This in turn gives you equity that is yours to utilize. You would also have something then to give your children when the time comes. You probably have looked into these things already. It is just very hard to follow your thought pattern sometimes because you go off on tangents. The only other though I have is that you should be careful what you are willing to print out in a public forum. It might make landlords less likely to consider you for nicer housing if they think that all you are going to do is cause them trouble. It is easy to research perspective tenants nowadays online. You may be arguing your way out of decent housing. I hope this causes you no distress. I apologize if it does. I am just giving you my perspective on the issue.
Gabor Deutsch
Gabor Deutsch's picture
Offline
Last seen: 4 years 6 months ago
Joined: May 24 2008 - 4:16pm
HUD provides housing for low income/disabled people and their children. Hud requires all benificiaries of the program to pay 30 percent of total income or benifits received towards rent. There are a few deductions they will give you like co pay on meds etc. but normally they pay over half of your rent. There are many rules that they require people to abide by and in the last year they have become more strict with their inspections. Because of recent economic conditions and many people abusing the system they have been very strict with their rules and for obvious reasons they tend to lean towards siding with landlords in general.
daniel cherry
daniel cherry's picture
Offline
Last seen: 2 years 5 months ago
Joined: May 6 2008 - 2:21pm
Hi Lori.I will try to answer some questions.Yes we have to have a HUD approved apartment.The landlords are allowed to charge more to HUD tenants than others by law.Yes 880$ includes all.Its a small apartment.The 3rd bedroom used to be called an entrance hallway.I do not know why we are being made to pay more because they "SAY" we do not use the third bedroom we do use it.Only because the Pathstone super says so.That's what she said at the last hearing.She also said we do not have a right to appeal her decision last year.In my opinion it's because of last year, and an ego problem. Hud did the inspection.We were nearly homeless last year.I did call HUD and tell them about the holes.I did not notice them when i looked at this apartment.The doors were open when i looked at it.I took pictures of the door cause my friend said i better cause look what just happened to us.He's on HUD.Between the time i looked at it and we moved in the house was left open for the painter.Some landlords live in big mansions, and do not care as long as you pay rent.Me i try to keep the heat turned down and have energy saving bulbs.Our landlord has no problem with us.We cleaned up this property alot.There are organizations that try to help me.Independent living and the social club.They try to help.They were there at the HUD meeting.The one who helped us the most was our caseworker for the boys at social services Last year. Yes i am vocal.We would have been shut off HUD last year had i not been.See Hud says they will shut you off for things like withholding rent to get things fixed.Even if you have it in escarole.I was offered a habitat home.I lived on south main street.I do not drive.I could not do 300 hours of work on my foot like it is.Mabe i made a mistake. Mabe if things are to change for the good of all some must risk it all and fight for their rights.Am i supposed to sit and wonder what HUD will say next year like they did the past 2 years?It's time for change.Mabe its Batavia and Genesee County.HUD was a program started by Martin Luther KING.So that people wouldn't have to feel threatened by landlords.Now we are threatened by them. Mabe land/lords should appreciate a good tenant when they have one.Mabe HUD should nit pic a little more about land/lords than tenants.Tenants made them rich. To me what you said is like saying why don't they still have slavery?Why don't they still lock up menally disabled people and chain to walls?Why do people fight for freedom?Why do bad things always happen to people who fight for humanity and peoples, civil rights?Why do we have laws? People on HUD, do not have the same rights as any other tenants do.Why not?The HUD will always favor a land/lord over a tenant. Funny how exactly the same thing happened last year.It's not our landlord who is causing trouble.HUD is.HUD overlooks many things.Unless you are a tenant. Why didn't the other person on here say how they fear HUD.How it took them 8 years to get the ceiling fixed that leaked rain in?Are they scared?^^^People fear what HUD can do to their lives.I can not go through another last year every year any more.I am not only fighting for myself.They took my boys money for no reason.I have seen what they have done to other HUD recipients.It is wrong.They should be nice to us.If there were no HUD they'd have no job.He's right^^They take the land/lords side not yours.We never had a problem with them until our last years problem which is at the bottom of my blog.And HUD got a new super.And we had a Unbearable HUD worker who's still there.In my opinion causing us problems.And they use your illness to their advantage.Causing you unnecessary trauma.Right?^^ Yea mabe i am too vocal.Mabe i should just give up .And send the boys to live with mom cause soon i can't afford anything for them anymore.Mabe i should have never had the boys.Then i wouldn't have been arrested and harassed for years in city and family courts, because she said so.By the way courts cost you money.And have bad credit because i can't afford to pay all the fines for all the things i never did.So this city put a civil claim on me when i was paying them.If i were a single mom would this happen?Yea i have always tried so hard to do the right thing here.You would not want to walk a mile in my shoes.But i have gone many miles. So mabe i should just shut up and let the world stomp my soul in.If i had a dream it would begin with getting out of this county...
daniel cherry
daniel cherry's picture
Offline
Last seen: 2 years 5 months ago
Joined: May 6 2008 - 2:21pm
Gabor why comment you know it all.You know all about HUD.
Gabor Deutsch
Gabor Deutsch's picture
Offline
Last seen: 4 years 6 months ago
Joined: May 24 2008 - 4:16pm
I used to stick up for you and be nice Dan but you always end up attacking me. I simply replied to a post by Lori. I do know alot about HUD. I am on HUD. I do know lots of other things too. I am not going to be intimidated by anyone when it comes to posting on this website. Read back thru some previous posts. I actually stuck up for you or gave you compliments. Read your comments towards me.
daniel cherry
daniel cherry's picture
Offline
Last seen: 2 years 5 months ago
Joined: May 6 2008 - 2:21pm
ok gabor no comment
Ann Marie Docking
Ann Marie Docking's picture
Offline
Last seen: 8 years 3 months ago
Joined: May 30 2009 - 10:49pm
Dan, I totally sympathize with you!! Genesee County is known for not helping people in the correct way. Call the Attorney General and report this. That is the only way that you might get any kind of help. They have different sets of rules for different people! Hud has always been that way. I thought that they cleaned it up after they got rid of the other crooked crew that they had in there, but obviously they didn't. I have a great friend in Rochester that is an advocate for people like you. I agree with you and it is unfair. If you were in Monroe County you would get all kinds of help..
Ann Marie Docking
Ann Marie Docking's picture
Offline
Last seen: 8 years 3 months ago
Joined: May 30 2009 - 10:49pm
I know someone who can help you get out of this county, Dan..By all means do not give up on your children. It CAN get better!! You just have to go about things in a different way. Sometimes change is good and you have to quit trying to fight a losing battle. God puts obstacles in your way for a reason..To make you move..It may not be comfortable at the time but in the end you will come out on top!!
C D
C D's picture
Offline
Last seen: 6 years 11 months ago
Joined: Oct 9 2008 - 10:40pm
tl;sg;dr
Fred GUNDELL
Fred GUNDELL's picture
Offline
Last seen: 5 months 1 week ago
Joined: May 29 2008 - 12:59pm
Dan, The Attorney General is one option. Your congressman is another. ( Chris Lee ). I might also suggest Genesee Legal Services for a consult. You might even have a claim for damages. But, I agree that the less you say publicly, the better off you probably are going to be. We are trying to help out, but are only getting your side of the storey. It would help if we had the other side. But assuming everything you say is true, try the Genesee Legal Services.
Mardell Lamb
Mardell Lamb's picture
Offline
Last seen: 1 year 5 months ago
Joined: Apr 22 2009 - 8:07am
Dan, I don't have any great suggestions for you...however, I wish the best possible outcome for you & your boys. I can only imagine how frustrated you must be. I think you've gotten alot of good advice here so far. Good luck & don't give up. Don't let them get the best of you. :o)
daniel cherry
daniel cherry's picture
Offline
Last seen: 2 years 5 months ago
Joined: May 6 2008 - 2:21pm
Ann Marie thank you for your support.I have thought of calling.I thought it is another government agency.Hopefully it does not get that far.What id like to know where are the hud laws on line?If we need help they tell us call buffalo HUD.It's a waste.I do appreciate the kind thoughts.I will begin tomorrow our journey for justice.We are not the only ones who have the problems like this.People are afraid to speak.If only one has a problem they will not listen.Thanks. Its a big help to know someone cares.xs dan an boys
daniel cherry
daniel cherry's picture
Offline
Last seen: 2 years 5 months ago
Joined: May 6 2008 - 2:21pm
Who can help us?I never give up.I just don't want to drag my boys all over like i was.
daniel cherry
daniel cherry's picture
Offline
Last seen: 2 years 5 months ago
Joined: May 6 2008 - 2:21pm
Ok Gabor are you fearful of what may happen if you complained for good reason?I am trying to be tactful.I know i do not know it all.
daniel cherry
daniel cherry's picture
Offline
Last seen: 2 years 5 months ago
Joined: May 6 2008 - 2:21pm
Thank you Mardell#==(o0)
daniel cherry
daniel cherry's picture
Offline
Last seen: 2 years 5 months ago
Joined: May 6 2008 - 2:21pm
Thank you Fred.I did call them last year.I did not call the attorney general.I am telling the truth.I was never sent a letter why our rent went up.Only that it did.I was only told by the super on the phone so far.Our amount is now 409$It was 275$ last year.I wish they'd tell their side.I know they are to reinspect after the first inspection.I know the inspector has nothing to do with how much i pay.I know they waited until she was here.I know she was asking about our finances.In an intimidating way.I have much proof from last year.When the same thing happened.I know they are aware that they call it a 3 bedroom.When we moved in last July.I am aware they mailed my landlord a letter stating why and not me.I have to get a special note from a doctor of why we needed a 3 bedroom.I asked for a 2 first then a 3 so they could not do this.They say i did not.I think the hole in the door was to anger a landlord.And start it all over what happened last year.I know under NYS law and hud laws you have a right to complain without fear or do you?I wrote Obama weeks before they came over here.I know many hud recipients are in fear of moving it costs too much.Or losing benefits.If the HUD recipients banded together then there will be change.But look at what happened to us last year.We are not only fighting for ourselves.It's about all poor handicapped disabled HUD people.They will not come forward.They could write HUD online in Washington.Then they may get what we got.I will not give up.I have worked so hard for going on 9 years to help my boys.I am an artist.I have donated my work images.I do not get a tax write off.I do not get paid to put pictures on here.I do it because art is to be shared.There is not enough space to say it all.But i can tell you i have come a looong way from living in the streets as a 16 year old.I don't go to jail for a reason anymore.They think one up for me.I don't drink every day anymore.I am in severe pain.I have a hole in my foot.If i have surgery what would happen to the boys?I was born with a bone through my spine.I do not tell people this.I never have before.I have some kind of nerve problem.I was never diagnosed as of now.Nobody ever told me why i'm like this.To do what i do take care of the boys is difficult .I don't drive.Thing like this cause me trauma.It can make me physically ill.Nobody should have to be treated like HUD does.I am already in enough pain.I do not need any more emotional drainage. But i will fight.To think anyone even cares is a great help.I wish someone would help us.Fix the problem.They fix many other ones.Why can't our government help us so i can do my job?Without the strain of all this.I voted for change.We still sit in the back seat.All the poor do.We don't have rights.We cant get legal aid help they refuse us.We supposedly were not evicted.If we go to claims court who's the judge.Someone who jailed me in 2006 after i took a beating and was illegally arrested.Cause the cops didn't believe there was a new court order?It was hell.I was beaten in front of my boys.And i owe money.If i had an expensive lawyer they'd never try that on me.I have been jailed for protecting myself from a known criminal.Who threatened me at my home.I have been beaten nearly to death and the people got a 100$ fine.And it's the same Judge.I could write a book.We want justice.No Fear...WE want change for all
Gabor Deutsch
Gabor Deutsch's picture
Offline
Last seen: 4 years 6 months ago
Joined: May 24 2008 - 4:16pm
Dan, since you aked I am fearful to complain to HUD. I also learned recently not to report abuses of the system. They want you to sign statements and give dates, times and enormous amount of proof before they will investigate. They ask for all kinds of proof of income and vehicle information, bank records and they never check them. I understand if an individual works underthe table its hard to track income. They make you sign a statement saying your not working then no problem. If you purchase a 4,000 dollar vehicle and dont report it they dont know or really dont care. I know how much bull they put you and your boys through the first time and I am so sorry that they are doing it again. For a single parent with two children to be hassled about this stuff doesnt seem right. I know for a fact that they are not any better than they were under rural oppurtunities, thay maybe worse. I remember all the letters and calls you made the first time this happened with no results too. I hope maybe something good will come out of your post and they will leave people alone whom are following the rules and go after the people who are obviously breaking the rules.
daniel cherry
daniel cherry's picture
Offline
Last seen: 2 years 5 months ago
Joined: May 6 2008 - 2:21pm
Gabor thanks.They got all the information last month about finances.In my opinion they are harassing us.I could never write it all on here this is not the whole thing.I am surprised people replied and cared.I have tried so hard.
Gabor Deutsch
Gabor Deutsch's picture
Offline
Last seen: 4 years 6 months ago
Joined: May 24 2008 - 4:16pm
Dan, I know that some people dont like programs like HUD and there is a stigma atatched to it, some people call it a handout and complain about their tax dollars. That makes it difficult for anyone who is deservingly eligible to receive these services to complain when something is wrong. I think that letting everyone know what is happening to you is important especially for how well you take care of your boys ALONE. I will boldly say that if you were a "mother" none of this would have happened.
Lori Ann Santini
Lori Ann Santini's picture
Offline
Last seen: 8 years 8 months ago
Joined: Jan 3 2009 - 11:44am
Dan, Once again I was only asking several questions and noted observations. I would NEVER condone slavery or anything that resembles it. What I stated was what the Habitat for Humanity requires from their candidates. They refer to the time the new homeowners put into their houses as sweat equity. I agree that if the HUD program truly supports the landlord and not the tenant then restructuring of the program is a must. I cannot imagine how they think that essentially keeping people in poverty is going to help. Keep your kids. Don't ever give up the best gift god has to give. Good luck with your fight.
Peter O'Brien
Peter O'Brien's picture
Offline
Last seen: 3 years 7 months ago
Joined: Mar 4 2009 - 1:24pm
You're Welcome.
daniel cherry
daniel cherry's picture
Offline
Last seen: 2 years 5 months ago
Joined: May 6 2008 - 2:21pm
Thanks Gabor.I will not give up so easily.I have had to keep fighting ever since i had the boys.It takes away energy i need.I think the stress can make people physically ill.Nobody should ever have to fight for rights like this.That is why there are laws.
daniel cherry
daniel cherry's picture
Offline
Last seen: 2 years 5 months ago
Joined: May 6 2008 - 2:21pm
Lori,I was told if you buy a habitat home and you ever move you have to give the money back.So you can never move.I would say we qualify.I have a hole in my foot how could i do 300 hours work?I was only using that back seat as an example.It's how i feel about being not prominent.So we don't have the same rights as we should.I am too darn stubborn to give up.I will get a hearing.The problem is HUD "says" they never heard of the people here.And they don't work for HUD.I don't know who to call.But i will find out.Could Pathstone have different rules for different people.People who they favor with the exact same incomes.I think so.I think and i could be wrong.They have a vendetta because i say what i think.Isn't this supposed to be free speech?I was told i threatened a hud worker.Cause i was really upset about what happened last year.I told her i Called and emailed Washington.And when Washington finds out some heads will roll.I went to a HUD meeting last year.They tried to get me to sign an incomprehensible lease.Then they said i can file appeal i won't get one.Then the one who "SAID" i threatened her stood up at the end of the meeting and says "HE THREATENED ME".You get shut off HUD for threatening people.The law says you can complain without fear.I did.And was forced out of an apartment where we were 7 years.The city asked them to fix things and bye to us.(Theres a loophole in the laws.So they don't evict you you get a letter from a lawyer saying they will not extend the lease.We had no lease.It goes to a month by month lease).So HUD recipients can be thrown out whenever they complain.And i think it's now rented by HUD.And if i go and ask at the city will they give me the information i need to fight with?They all work together.I wouldn't want to rock the boat would i?But if they do what i think they plan to i will.I called the super friday.At about 4:40 she called back and she says we have to pay more because my boys do not sleep in that room.My landlord is ok with us.Why is this happening to US?Is it retaliation for "ROCKIN THE BOAT"?I never got a letter stating why our portion of rent went up so much.They know i have children here.So i think they figure i will shut up.Yes you are right we are being punished for invoking our rights.
daniel cherry
daniel cherry's picture
Offline
Last seen: 2 years 5 months ago
Joined: May 6 2008 - 2:21pm
We will be having a HUD hearing on Tuesday.I don't know why they never sent us anything in writing.Tomorrow at 9:20 am we have another HUD inspection.In my opinion it's not right, the way we are treated.A lot of the problem is people on HUD can not ,with hold rent to get things fixed.If you do they try to shut you off, (termination)Or say you complain..After one year HUD recipients get a month to month lease.They should have a yearly lease through HUD.It is up to the tenant to ask a landlord.And part of the above is wrong.We only had rent raised 1020$ a year.In an economy like this,how do landlords get to charge more by HUD rules?HUD does not have enough workers.They are overloaded.Maybe we can help other poor HUD recipients.But if we are denied an appeal for disagreeing like last year.There must be something we can do.Because under HUD rules you have a right to appeal if you disagree.Without being threatened to be terminated.We were denied that last year.It is traumatizing to me.I can't sleep at night wondering if what happened last year is going to happen to us again.Because under NYS law and HUD laws.People have a right to complain about real issues without fear of being harassed or terminated for saying what you think is wrong.I never complained about my landlord this year.I did have a right to be very concerned when they "SAID" we broke holes in doors.Its a reason to be terminated.We could be made to pay for damages we did not cause. I think a big part of the problem is landlords who own many ,many properties don't even need the money.I think if there were a landlord who needed the money more they would have more respect, than last year what happened to us. Our lives were uprooted.I wouldn't want this to happen to any other HUD recipients ever.Having a roof over your head is a need.Like food.We left 7 years of our history there at our last place.The boys grew up there.They were little when we moved in there. All i want for HUD recipients and ourselves is basic human rights.The same rights any renter has in NY.It would be nice, if HUD looked as intensely at properties as they do tenants. I think HUD should not give money to Landlords who do to tenants what happened to us last year.A lot of HUD properties are wasting energy.Then peoples rent goes up.If i were a landlord I'd be very concerned about energy efficiency.It could save money. We don't get a lot of money.But what we get goes back into the economy here.I don't drive.So we shop here.I wonder how much money from HUD goes into the economy in Genesee county? I have been doing the best i can to raise 2 boys alone.The stress of this is getting to me.It affects my boys lives.We should not be made to move again.But i have real big feeling it's happening all over again.Because i am not like honey for flies when we get treated like this.My grandma always said,"You can catch more flies with Honey than vinegar". Dan and boys
J. Hale
J. Hale's picture
Offline
Last seen: 10 years 5 months ago
Joined: Jun 8 2009 - 8:05pm
You know I have read quite a few of your postings and it seems as though you only have negative things to say. I believe you should be putting your time and efforts into something more productive like volunteer work or spending time with your children rather than slandering the name of a company who has done nothing but help many families in tough situations. Do you ever stop to think that things are coming down on you like that because you are so unappreciative? As you should already know, nothing in this world is free and there are rules for everything. Have you looked around lately? The cost of everything is going up, including housing, not just “HUD” homes as you call them. The women of PathStone are just doing their job and following the rules that they are given to fulfill their job duties as any hardworking American does on a daily basis. I believe that you SHOULD have to jump through hoops to get that monthly paycheck handed to you. I bet you spend less time yearly doing paperwork and attending appointments than I do at one day of work. Although, it seems you may spend the remainder of the year complaining about your so-called hardships, which again is, wasted effort. You have made your experience what it is. If you do not want to follow the rules and uphold your part of the agreement then you should relinquish the help that is given to you. There are many people on a waiting list that would love to be getting the assistance you are rewarded every month and be grateful about it. I truly do not believe you deserve even a dollar of help with the attitude you have. P.S. Imagine the stress that hardworking families who do not get ANY assistance are experiencing right now. Go give back to the community and maybe positive things will start happening in your life.
daniel cherry
daniel cherry's picture
Offline
Last seen: 2 years 5 months ago
Joined: May 6 2008 - 2:21pm
Mr hale if that happens to be a "real" name.Must be you are friends of the HUD people.We do keep our part of the agreement.The ones who violate the law are working at HUD.Path stone.You sound just like another see ya, right here, person.You don't consider a disabled person human do ya?Since the housing market is like it is no, housing costs should be lower.I know maybe you can watch my boys, for 6 weeks while i have surgery right.I'm sure you'd be hiring a guy who can barely walk.You don't know me at all.We have been denied our civil rights here by HUD.I guess that means nothing to you right Mr hale?Or whatever your real name may be.So my boys and i should be punished right?And kiss the HUD people's rear to get our human rights?I think if it weren't for Welfare and HUD then who'd buy anything at your stores here?If i did slander someone sue me.Because telling the truth is not slander.That would be your's and HUD's job.See my job is taking care of my boys.We do appreciate when we used to be treated good by HUD.Before new management came it was not like it is now.You do not say where you work doing paper work.You have offended me.I should jump through a hoop to get help hmm.We do.We are made to.I am in severe pain always.Don't tell me about a hoop.I don't care what you think.You don't even know me.You have no idea.See the people who are not letting any HUD recipients have civil rights any more.They should be punished.Not the poor.If it were not for poor, handicapped, disabled ,mentally ill, people they'd have no job would they?I was told not to post the video i made on here.See the HUD sent A person named Becky who says i threatened her to my house.of course mr hale knows that right?I was filming for my safety.they said they will not inspect if i was filming in my own apatment and ran out.Today HUD says i cant have a hearing because i made you tube video on getjustice channel. So how is that legal?A woman from independent living told me HUD was angry so they are getting lawyers after us.Last independence day July 4th we moved.We moved for weeks.The slumlord/landlord got 70,000 dollars.What did we get?Illegally evicted and stolen security.You are wrong.The government helps us yes but the landlords make Billions.So you pay the landlords money.So we should "jump through hoops".Blaa blaa blaa.Mabe you should be a HUD landlord then you wouldn't have to file papers.I will make this story public knowledge.I will not be intimidated any more.I feel threatened by HUD.I need to protect my boys from them.My boys would never treat anyone like the HUD treats us.They have a thing called morals.Unlike you.Why don't any men work at HUD?huh?Or any race but white?Good thing most people aren't like you Mr Hale.The world is rotten enough.People on the Batavian have to use real names.Of course you only have been here a day.On the Batavian.You were looking to see what i wrote weren't you Mr Hale?I don't sit on here all day long like you imply.You don't see people as equal do you Mr hale?You are a hater i think.And i can think what i want.Sue me for slander if you like.Tell them to.But if i can prove it is true its not slander.Slander is a viscious lie.I don't have to make up lies to cover up things like some do.A positive thing would be to get out of town.Then we would be treated human.8000 left already.I do not like you mr hale.at all.You never cared to mention my boys.They should jump through hoops too right?Why isnt there an iggy button on the Bat avian.You were not made to read anything Mr hale were you?If i ever did have time i would volunteer for the people at the care a van ministries.They don't think like you do.So just don't read my blog it is simple.If you don't like it.I have always tried to do the right thing.I am not a bad man.I do not dislike people because they have problems, or are poor.Or any race.I dislike people like you. blaaa blaaa.I thought making videos ,is therapy for all the wrongs.getjustice funny how controversy gets ratings.I don't want ratings.I just want my opinion heard.All around the world...so have lovely day Mr hale.At least you don't pay rent and wonder where you'll live next.
John Roach
John Roach's picture
Offline
Last seen: 1 month 3 weeks ago
Joined: May 29 2008 - 5:22am
Daniel, If you really think you have a case, have you called Legal Aide? They might be able to help you.
daniel cherry
daniel cherry's picture
Offline
Last seen: 2 years 5 months ago
Joined: May 6 2008 - 2:21pm
Legal aid only helps you when you get an eviction notice.HUD has a lawyer whenever they want.I wonder if it's the same one who sent our termination last year.I thought he was city attorney.This all started when we asked for a letter stating why our rent went up.It seems simple.Too bad no other HUD recipients will say what things happened to them.I know there are many.Every ones rent went up.Nobody was told why that i know of.People need and are supposedly entitled to representation in a hearing, even if you can not afford one.We can't even get a hearing now.If any HUD recipients have similar problems.And i know they do call me 585-344-4914.But i also know they are afraid of losing HUD.We do need a lawyer.We can not afford one.Any ideas?Any lawyers that would help us?I asked my landlord who says were good tenants for a lease.We like other HUD recipients only get a month by month lease after a year.And HUD will tell us it is up to tenants to ask for one.So i did.And i have received no reply as of today.We should be entitled to a quick and speedy hearing with no delay.So then we know what amount we pay our landlord.In my opinion HUD does do exactly what Mr hale if that is his name says.Make you jump through hoops.We did what they asked.Our landlord did what they asked.So what if i made video.?My boys and i were being punished already for daring ask for a reason why.They are all riled up there.They are supposed to be service people.They get paid for it.And before we started being treated sub human.I always told them how much we appreciated the help.I know they are overworked is what i'm told.So why don't they hire more workers? I get the feeling that if you are on HUD and invoke your right to ask questions or dare complain you will be punished.Its like mr hale said.How dare us ask why our rent went up?How dare you film?Funny how the you tube video got so many hits in a couple days.And see ya right here.More than any video i ever made.And i spent alot of time on some artistic videos.But nobody wants to see that.Certain people at HUD were angry about the video last year.I don't even like the song on it much.But you tube took off teach your children well i taped off WBTA that day.so i put a silly free you tube song on it. And yes i have done a little to help my community.I have donated my images to go art.The home by the VA they built.I thought it was for veterans.And pieces made me a real real nice frame free.The fire victims of paulys.And other causes. I believe art, and culture, are important.Imagine a day without art.No music tv no signs well mabe that w ould be ok.Even architecture is art right? An like hale says i do do things with my boys.It cost way more than i thought to have a small garden.My boys helped me dig 3' deep 30 foot long 5 1/2 feet wide garden by the garage.And to plant it.We have baseball.We are selling clors bbq tickets for 8$.We have 5.We want to go camping.We do fish sometimes.The boys love royal rangers.They go tonight.I always do photography.I don't get help from a wife or their mom.We are the family.The 2 boys and i.My own mother doesn't see them.She goes to Oakfield though to see my brothers kids.My real dad left at 5.He was Donald Wiehle.I can't find him.We don't have a family except us.We should be allowed to just enjoy the place we are living.We did a lot of work to make it nice.We lived at 119 state street 7 years.Nobody ever bothered us.Except our landlord.Cause we don't bother other people.I think you should love and respect all people, who do the same.But there are always some who try to set you back.I will not let that happen.Unfortunately we must fight for our rights.Why must we?That's why there are laws.
daniel cherry
daniel cherry's picture
Offline
Last seen: 2 years 5 months ago
Joined: May 6 2008 - 2:21pm
We still haven't gotten a letter why our rent went up.Or a hearing.Or had the apartment inspected.Why is all i'd like to know.We need to know so we can pay our rent.We need to know before next month.But that is a big deal to get now.
daniel cherry
daniel cherry's picture
Offline
Last seen: 2 years 5 months ago
Joined: May 6 2008 - 2:21pm
People at HUD batavia pathstone still as of now no reply.I am angry.Our rights are being violated.I smell a civil lawsuit coming.Someone should help us now.We filed for a hearing June 4th notarized copy no reply.I will go to channel 10 news.(The phone rings now).It's a woman from independent living.She says Jennifer is sending us a letter of termination.We did not even have a hearing.WE did everything they asked.Under the law we have a right to complain no fear.We only asked why rent went up.Something smells fishy here doesn't it. After all the living hell, my boys, and i have been through.Not one person helps us.Nearly 8 years of family court being arrested for no reason except Miss Tracy Davis Thomas Davenport now who left signed a paper.She rarely even calls these kids.The govt took the some of the kids money a Patacki law.Then they took some of my SSI money for having kids.The mom never pays support.We have no family.I am supposed to pay support 400$.I can not wait to get the letter i will post it on here on you tube getjustice.See if you bothered to read above here i made a video.So becuase of HUDS overinflated ego we get punished.And we want change now!We want an expedited hearing now.We want proper representation now!Under law we are entitled to these things.Not after the boys end up at moms and in foster care now!I am glad i made the video it shows how they are there at HUD pathstone.Why isn't someone doing something for the boys and i?I am angry.This is injustice at its finest.Nobody even knows the full story or cares.I will post the video here what happened.Its on you tube get justice.All we wanted was our rights.They are being violated.We're supposed to wait till we are evicte,d to get an alleged lawyer.The exact same thing happened last year.This is no coincidence.How do things like this only happen here in Genesee county?Why do people fight for freedom when we have none?I knew this was going to happen.But i will not let the HUD egos scare me.We are not the only ones who have these problems here.I know of certain cases that HUD over looks # of rooms and lots of things.They have their favorites.Isnt it funny how we had no problems at all till HUD came to inspect and raised our rent.And all we asked is why.I'm not lying.This is plain wrong.I have proof.(O good fed express brought my bandages.See i have a hole in my foot and have to bandage it every day.)I can not keep going through this.I am being punished for having kids.This is why they keep complaining about a stupid bedroom.I had a one bedroom before and never got evicted.I wouldn't have moved if it werent for my boys id still be at 47 south main for 11 years.Why didn't i have to be kicked out then?I have a right to be angry.I can't imagine when the time comes how will i feel when i lose the boys because of a HUD ego. Why doesn't howard follow this story or have an opinion?He's a reporter.Investigate it.The only time i ever saw an opinion was when the daily news had a story.The best stories i have ever seen are ones like this.This is our government trying to make a poor disabled man's kids homeless.And we did jump through hoops.Last independence day we never even saw fireworks.It was the first time we ever missed it.HUD Pathstone sends a woman Becky Hoak whos not an inspector just to harass me.A woman who says the see ya right here video is terrible.It is only truth.All the evidence why they should not recieve HUD money.These are the stories that need telling.I will post a link on my blog.Imagine being me.The HUD doesn't care how i feel.Their ego is hurt so we must be punished!Im gonna keep making videos even if its from a motel room. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b9joMai5SX4&feature=channel_page
Chelsea O'Brien
Chelsea O'Brien's picture
Offline
Last seen: 4 years 4 months ago
Joined: May 15 2009 - 10:45am
Have you tried to bring them to small-claims court or something like that? No lawyers needed and it will generally be settled quickly. Not sure if this falls under that jurisdiction, but it's a suggestion.
daniel cherry
daniel cherry's picture
Offline
Last seen: 2 years 5 months ago
Joined: May 6 2008 - 2:21pm
Thanks Chelsea i think they can be sued for violating civil liberties.Now i just got the termination letter they say i threatened them now.Good thing i was filming wasn't it?That is the last time i saw a hud worker.I will post the letter from HUD/pathstone.They use fear tactics.I am threatened by the lies they tell.My boys will end up in foster care and still nobody helps us.Not one lawyer contacted me to help yet.\ dan
J. Hale
J. Hale's picture
Offline
Last seen: 10 years 5 months ago
Joined: Jun 8 2009 - 8:05pm
You have been waiting for my response right? So here it is... Do you really not know why a lawyer has not contacted you? It is because you have NO case. You are just stirring up trouble. How would you like it if the shoe was on the other foot? You would feel violated wouldn't you? The more you write the more I feel sad for you, but not because of your situation, because i think you truly do believe the things you are saying are reality when in fact they are not. PathStone did not force you to post the disturbing videos and comments, so blame yourself for the life your children will have and good luck in the future.
daniel cherry
daniel cherry's picture
Offline
Last seen: 2 years 5 months ago
Joined: May 6 2008 - 2:21pm
J hale.Apparently you know who i am and very much about hud.So you must be crooked like they are.And yea i do have a case.They are violating the law.I am not.I will win the hearing.I posted this to save my boys lives.You must be a nazi who thinks poor people have no rights.They do!!The justice will be served upon the people at HuD.We did nothing wrong.I am so glad i made that video.And You have some nerve saying now my children are nearly. homeless almost and you thinks its nice.How dare you be so spineless to say that not to me, on here.What you are saying means you work for HUD is what i think.And if someone complains legally their children are punished.The law states everyone is entitled to a hearing.This only proves you wrong.I bet you work at HUD.How do i get a letter that says i threatened someone?I did not.I was never arrested was i?Its people like you who make the world a crummy place.I am fighting for peoples rights here.So you j hale think this is cool right?Our civil rights are being violated.I call what you say being a hater.You hate poor people who are disabled right?The things i say are reality its on the video.Its on the other ones.I have everything i need to win a hearing.You i think are a shame to humanity.When people do wrongs to poor people and make up lies to hurt them it comes back opon them.We will get justice!The only ones threatened really were my boys and i.What will HUD tell the news?Who are you?I think you are under a false name.I'm waiting for my expidited hearing so i can appeal it like the law says.I will fight this and am contacting people to help us.Im not like the other HUD recipients who get shut off and have no hearing.Mabe they are unsure of their rights.
John Roach
John Roach's picture
Offline
Last seen: 1 month 3 weeks ago
Joined: May 29 2008 - 5:22am
Daniel, Why do you think a lawyer will contact you? You're the one who has the problem, so you have to contact/call them. Have you ever called the Legal Aide Society? If you think your "civil rights" are being violated by HUD, a department of the Federal Gov., contact the ACLU. Let us know what they tell you.
Gabor Deutsch
Gabor Deutsch's picture
Offline
Last seen: 4 years 6 months ago
Joined: May 24 2008 - 4:16pm
Hey Dan, "simmer down now simmer down". And mr. Roach he has done that the first time with no results. They dont give a crap about him. I will say to Dan that you need to simmer but you are getting screwed !
John Roach
John Roach's picture
Offline
Last seen: 1 month 3 weeks ago
Joined: May 29 2008 - 5:22am
If he tried once, he should try both again. Post who he talked to at both Legal Aide and the ACLU, and why they didn't help. Or is J. Hale right?
daniel cherry
daniel cherry's picture
Offline
Last seen: 2 years 5 months ago
Joined: May 6 2008 - 2:21pm
Mr roach i have talked to civil liberties.I will try again Monday.Legal aid have been rude when i lost my security they said i cant even talk to a lawyer.I had to get back my boys money and go to 3 hearings at social services and be our lawyer.In front of an administrative law judge.Mr hale is not under a real name.But if he or she is are they are typing this kind of thing while at work? whoever this may be.its not a name like Howard says it supposed to be.I used my name.What they are saying is if you complain your kids are punished.The truth is disturbing.Maybe some lawyer will help us and do it for the good of all.I met someone tonight who had exactly the same thing happen.I think they the HUD are hiding something.It's not right to say someone threatened you when they did not.Just to make their kids suffer.That's what happened before the laws were made to protect tenants rights.It's called real property laws in new york state.A letter stating we are terminated as of aug 1st is not my imagination.The signed sealed delivered and stamped by HUD paper from June 4th where i ask for a hearing that is not my imagination.The law they violated is not my imagination either.Although i do have a good one.Better than some ,if i was going to make up a story.I don't make up stories.I don't like being on camera but i will if i can to help my boys.To tell a real story it would take way more than 10 minutes they allow on you tube.I have not worked enough on you tube getjustice.Why are people so scared of a camera?I know everywhere you go they are.Stores and they may even be on red lights in many cities everywhere.The mall.I'd say the people scared must be up to no good.I asked if someone knew a lawyer for us.Pro bono is it?I had John Zonitch at legal aid help last year to stop us from paying heat until the next month.After that he said he will only help if your evicted.Civil liberties mainly does class action things that is what they told me.They kept asking for donations in emails.So i can be a member last year.How could anyone ask a question like is j hale right come on what's up with that?I already have my Dan der up enough here.I did learn a camera is not only just good for art that tells a story.It can be a powerful tool.And save you from harm.We were already in the cross hairs when i made the videos.I felt threatened.I still do.We can't even be safe at home.I want to have someone here for a simple inspection.Because who knows what they will "SAY" next.I have to fear here.People are made to fear what others can do to your life.It is wrong.Its like fight or flight response.I will not choose the latter.Why don't you call HUD and ask why they gave us no hearing?I cant.Maybe they'll tell you they tell us nothing except were terminated.In order to solve a huge broken problem controversy must occur.I wish more people who have the problem i had would come forward.Just because we don't have a lawyer yet doesn't mean we're lying does it?Thats why theres no liberty and justice for all!It would be a waste to ever speak or type to someone like that above J Hale.A fake name to cover.I think the HUD is not only breaking the laws they may be prejudiced against a man raising his children.So i get shut off HUD ^ for making a video and telling the truth.I have violated no laws.I want the world to know the real reason is above why we were shut off HUD terminated.It's because people at HUD didn't like the video i made.That is not threatening someone and it is no violation of any HUD laws.Why did HUD bring a person to my apartment who says i threatened them last year.If she gets mad she says that a lot.And she would have said it if i were not filming again and had a witness right?I won't take any more lies.It is against the law to lie and say someone did something they did not do isn't it?A camera does not lie.I hope some other HUD recipients see this and do what i did.If my boys end up in a foster home because of someone lying about me just because they are on their hi horse i will have way more time to go and speak the truth to many more people until someone listens.Did you ever think j hale may well be a hud worker.Who else would write demeaning and threatening things like that.Up above here?How bout if the shoe was on the other foot?Guess what it wouldn't fit cause i have 2 different size feet.We do have a case and i won't shut up until justice is served!What hale says is a threat read it.It says it all what happened to us.I am being punished because i have kids and got another apartment.A bigger one.We should have stayed where we were.In a tiny one bedroom we'd be happier then.If a HUD person doesn't like the video do not watch it then 220 people did so far.I wish more would comment.I don't think many news stations would want to tell it.A lot of stories go untold don't they?I think the aclu has reverse predjudice.We have been made to suffer for no reason at all other than inflated egos.I thought things like this stopped a long time ago.I do not accept the way we have been treated.This is supposed to be the USA.Where you can speak your mind.I can't even get a hearing in the USA.And HUD should appoint you a lawyer if you can not afford one.They have one they say.I am trying to save my boys lives here.Its rotten what is happening to us.If i didn't have kids it wouldn't matter would it.How can anyone say what hale says.It's sub human!Like HUD treats people who ask why rent went up.My boys will never be like that.I will to go to the media about this story.Its a good one.How many will think like hale does?This story is about peoples lives.And basic human rights being violated blatantly in our face.Anyone else would have given up like they want you to.Discourage and belittle you.I do not give up ever. daniel cherry sr.
Wayne Speed
Wayne Speed's picture
Offline
Last seen: 7 years 3 months ago
Joined: May 15 2008 - 7:58am
Mr. Cherry - your rants are not helping your case.
bud prevost
bud prevost's picture
Offline
Last seen: 2 months 1 week ago
Joined: Jan 11 2009 - 9:12pm
The only case you are validating is that you are abusive, superdefensive, and channeling the most negative vibe I think I've ever observed. Good luck and God bless you.
daniel cherry
daniel cherry's picture
Offline
Last seen: 2 years 5 months ago
Joined: May 6 2008 - 2:21pm
How would you like people to just violate you like they have.Yea its how i feel about what they do to people.It is not abusive.The abusers are them.Abuse of power and authority.And a violation of peoples right to a hearing.It couldn't hurt any more than what they are trying to do.See if someone says you threatened them and you didn't to say things about you that are not true.My case was done when a certain person showed up unannounced at my residence I call that harassment.It is.People have a right to defend themselves in court.Only see we do not get a court date cause they wont give us one.Of course i have to be defensive i was attacked.Who else will protect my boys from them?I guess you must be like them bud.The hale one attacked my children on here.Damn right i am defensive.But yours must be another fake name not a real one.Can HUD look your kids in the face and throw them to the curb?Yes they can.I'm positive of one thing there is injustice here.If people never said anything you'd have no rights anymore either.I will not just sit there and let them violate us like they have.I don't know what you mean help our case we cant get a hearing we filed for.
Bea McManis
Bea McManis's picture
Offline
Last seen: 3 years 1 month ago
Joined: May 4 2009 - 9:20pm
Dan, a hint or two. Clarity...try to organize your thoughts before you put them down. You may have a valid complaint, but it gets lost in the verbage. Stick to the moment...while your past history is important to you, and you want to include it all, it is confusing to the readers. What exactly is happening NOW - at your present location. Isn't that what is most important now? Physical disabilities...you have already given us the details of your physical disabilities and the past history. Believe me, there is no one that doesn't sympathize with you or anyone else who is in constant pain. While this is a related to your current housing problem, it isn't the main story. In one or two sentences, please tell us what you hope to accomplish. Are you hoping a local attorney will read your posts and offer legal assistance?
bud prevost
bud prevost's picture
Offline
Last seen: 2 months 1 week ago
Joined: Jan 11 2009 - 9:12pm
Dan, This is my real name, I graduated from Leroy HS, and I believe what I wrote is accurate. You get more flies with honey than vinegar, as the expression goes. As for being just like "them", not sure how to take that. Believe me, I have had my share of issues with the legal system, specifically family court, but I realize that anger and hostility got me no where. There ARE agencies, public and private, that will help a legitimate case. And as I stated above, I wish you or your boys no ill will. On the contrary, I am praying that somehow God intervenes and helps show you the way. You obviously have some computer ability, an interest in helping the public, figure out how to use it for good. I can tell you, you did not do yourself any favors by posting that video on youtube. I can see why they might have felt threatened by you if that's the way you addressed them. Dan, honestly, God bless you
Chelsea O'Brien
Chelsea O'Brien's picture
Offline
Last seen: 4 years 4 months ago
Joined: May 15 2009 - 10:45am
Dan, I have a few questions 1. Are you on a month-to-month contract/lease? As in, do you only pay for one month at a time? 2. Do you know if Genesee County or Batavia has rent stabilization laws? 3. Have you ever contacted the Attorney General's Real Estate Financing Bureau?
Peter O'Brien
Peter O'Brien's picture
Offline
Last seen: 3 years 7 months ago
Joined: Mar 4 2009 - 1:24pm
I'm confused as to what threat was made by J. Hale. Have you tried for disability?
daniel cherry
daniel cherry's picture
Offline
Last seen: 2 years 5 months ago
Joined: May 6 2008 - 2:21pm
You have been waiting for my response right? So here it is... Do you really not know why a lawyer has not contacted you? It is because you have NO case. You are just stirring up trouble. How would you like it if the shoe was on the other foot? You would feel violated wouldn't you? The more you write the more I feel sad for you, but not because of your situation, because i think you truly do believe the things you are saying are reality when in fact they are not. PathStone did not force you to post the disturbing videos and comments, so blame yourself for the life your children will have and good luck in the future. In essence what they say ^is because i made a video they punish children.My children.I would not care if someone filmed me.How could i?I am a photographer.I am on disability.I see nothing wrong with the video.I myself have no reason to lie.We will have an attorney at our hearing.We filed signed sealed delivered friday the 12th.We filed for one on june 4th no reply.Last year it took 45 days to get a hearing.We can't wait that long this year.And no way would i ever do this to someone over a video.But i would not send people like Becky Hoak who i know is a problem to someones apartment.We are now on a yearly lease until July 1st.HUD doesn't go by Batavia's laws.I have not contacted the attorney general yet.I will and thanks.I do not see how anyone can feel threatened by a camera.Unless say they were up to no good.Like a thief in a store.

Pages

Post new comment

Log in or register to post comments

Calendar

S M T W T F S
1
 
2
 
3
 
4
 
5
 
6
 
7
 
8
 
9
 
10
 
11
 
12
 
13
 
14
 
15
 
16
 
17
 
18
 
19
 
20
 
21
 
22
 
23
 
24
 
25
 
26
 
27
 
28
 
29
 
30
 
31
 
 
 
 
 

Copyright © 2008-2019 The Batavian. All Rights Reserved. Privacy Policy | Terms of Service
 

blue button